hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2005-05-26 08:24 am
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Ah, well, saw that one coming.

For those of you who have been around a while, you know that when the last Coldplay LP dropped (August '02), I was championing it before it even hit shelves. Like the ODB once said '[we] go back like babies and pacifiers' -- and so it was with a lot of excitement that I looked forward to hearing X & Y....

And then I heard it.

And I'm saying it now, publicly, I think it's shit.

The five stars that Blender gave it and the brown-nosing that EW did? Bullshit. I'm talking about arse to the wall, and stains everywhere like Miguel Alvarez in Oz shit. Some albums are fifty-fifty, you love and you hate, some you love most and hate some -- this is just crap.

I feel like I should be disappointed, but I'm not surprised.



In better news: OMG I SO LESS THAN THREE HURLEY!!!!!

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
incidentally, i read yesterday that thom yorke suffers panic attacks because of his fears about global warming. i need a thom icon.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you don't have to play elsewhere, you're very entertaining, I'm just wondering if I need a dictionary.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
When you see this, you will be telling the world how much you love Hurley. There's a specific scene that's just classic. I have decided that they can kill everyone off as long as they leave Hurley and Locke alone. And Sawyer. Sawyer has a moment here.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
the band basically came off sounding like Class A whiners

See, the problem here is two-fold. One, like you said 'the band' come off as whiners, but it's not everybody else whinging, it's just Chris, but everybody is tarred with the same brush. Two, Chris seems to have lost the ability to think before he speaks. He always been very earnest, once upon a time it was endearing, now it's just grating.

If you really are the greatest band ever, shouldn't your work speak for you? I'm not saying Radiohead are the greatest band ever, but they're certainly very good at what they do -- do you ever hear Thom having a wank in the press about the genius of The Bends? My point exactly.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
He what? Okay, see, that's -- that's putting your money where your mouth is. Chris just yaps a lot, Thom, like suffers for his art. That's hot. In a twisted way.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
See, the problem here is two-fold. One, like you said 'the band' come off as whiners, but it's not everybody else whinging, it's just Chris, but everybody is tarred with the same brush. Two, Chris seems to have lost the ability to think before he speaks. He always been very earnest, once upon a time it was endearing, now it's just grating.

Exactly. The other problem I had was that they (or Chris, or maybe it was Chris and one of the other guys, I don't remember) were complaining about being corporatized and being stuck in the corporate music machine and having to do all this *publicity* and whatnot and basically have to put some of the creative stuff on hold for a while and how tough it is to be the ones making so much money for their label. And while on the one hand, yeah, I can see how that can be frustrating, on the other hand I'm thinking, you're smart boys, anybody who pays any attention to the music industry whatsoever knows exactly what happens when you sign on to a major label, so isn't it just wee bit disingenuous to be complaining about that now? You knew what you were getting into! Deal!

um. [/rant]

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That's *exactly* what I said.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Darling, you should judge for yourself. Don't listen to me. Everybody has differing tastes and opinions, this is just mine.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*snicker*

The Lennon debacle versus the Martin big-mouth.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Of *course* it is! BRAIN.

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So if the beatles are bigger than jesus, and oasis are bigger than the beatles, and coldplay is bigger than wolfgang, then what does that do for the price of tea in china?

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*flails*

[identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Damnit. *takes it off the To Buy list*

[identity profile] shireeen.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
wahey, is that roz up there? loooong time. And of course it's CP talk that brings me back into the fold...
well, the albums just get worse and worse, I daresay. AROBTTH wore thin after only a few listens and I don't expect X&Y to sway me either. (Although Speed of Sound, strangely, has grown on me, though I can't say I particularly enjoy it or think it's much different from Clocks.) The biggest indicator of their suckage for me is that I'm totally out of the loop on them and I don't even give a shit. They're playing where? Their new song's called what? I don't care.

Long live Parachutes.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Word.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know; I get mine from this old guy, who brings it over in his hollow leg every six months when he goes off to visit his six children and eighteeen grandkids and Shanghai.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you should totally listen for yourself. This is just my two pence.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I like them both. I love bits of Parachutes, actually I love 90%, except for 'Yellow' which has always made me physically ill, but I really do think AROBTTH has some really good bits. I love 'Clocks' and was horrified when it was made a single, but I really love 'Amsterdam' and the title track. If they eighty-sixed 'Daylight' and 'Green Eyes', it'd be a quality LP. This album though, it was just so fucking bland, like plain, fat-free yoghurt.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That's hot? Dude, it's the most neurotic thing I've ever heard of.

[identity profile] pir8fancier.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is telling everyone not to have children and not get married. Destroys brain cells. I sure as hell am living proof.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Notice the twisted commentary. He could just have a drink -- but that might lead to alcoholism. Everybody deals with anxiety in different ways; perhaps its just transference.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, definitely twisted.*g*

And I mean, everyone's a little neurotic about something, but dude, that just sounds like a painful way to live. I mean, global warming is ALL AROUND you. I'd rather have panic attacks about, say, public speaking or something, I dunno.

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Blaise loves Chinatown, with its strange rank scents and its bustle of noise and colour and rot. But he hates it too, because as a place it's not home, and he'll never have that again.

Which makes him angry, because home was always Theodore's thing. Home was Draco's, and a fucking millstone it was to both of them, though Blaise's always gotten family, maybe even more than they did.

Fuck, he never even knew he'd miss home until even the idea of it was taken from him.

Blaise misses Theodore and Draco, too, desperately. But thinking of them is even more dangerous than thinking of home, so he sits in Chinatown, on a stool at the little tea stall, and thinks of nothing, instead.

[identity profile] meacoustic.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read all the comments so I don't know if someone else has already posted this theory but: Chris Martin is just the kind of guy (and I like him, I do) to make an album he knows is bad and then be all "see, you music critics and music labels and etc are totally full of shit" when they fall all over it.

Or it could just not be that great. I have to say I wasn't blown away by "Speed of Sound" or whatever the first single is.

[identity profile] rozza.livejournal.com 2005-05-26 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
True, BHN is not a bad album, although it was a step down from Morning Glory and we won't even attempt to compare it to Definitely Maybe. But you know what came next--Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and then... I don't even remember what their last album was called. The hype around X&Y reminds me of how everyone began to wank all over BHN before it came out. Meanwhile, I was standing there going "...."

I feel very bitter about Coldplay. You know, last week or so Caz and I were talking about how earnest Chris was in the beginning. He still talked before speaking but it was funny. How else would we have learned about Alice Hill? Nowadays its like he's still trying to pretend he's earnest but he's not. He pretends he's modest and self-deprecating, but he's NOT. He's just obnoxious. Anyone who followed the band in the early days can spot the difference a mile away. I'm so sick of hearing how he's in the greatest band in the world, and I have to say I love Thom Yorke even more so for referring to Coldplay as "lifestyle music."

The sad thing is that I still love Jonny and Will very much. They're fantastic guys, and even though I'll make fun of Guy til the end of time I like him too. Without them Coldplay would be a lost cause. I just wish they could keep their tard of a lead singer under check.

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