Ah, well, saw that one coming.

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For those of you who have been around a while, you know that when the last Coldplay LP dropped (August '02), I was championing it before it even hit shelves. Like the ODB once said '[we] go back like babies and pacifiers' -- and so it was with a lot of excitement that I looked forward to hearing X & Y....

And then I heard it.

And I'm saying it now, publicly, I think it's shit.

The five stars that Blender gave it and the brown-nosing that EW did? Bullshit. I'm talking about arse to the wall, and stains everywhere like Miguel Alvarez in Oz shit. Some albums are fifty-fifty, you love and you hate, some you love most and hate some -- this is just crap.

I feel like I should be disappointed, but I'm not surprised.



In better news: OMG I SO LESS THAN THREE HURLEY!!!!!

Comments

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Yes, baby girl, you and Caz done good with the AROBTTH. As for X&Y = BHN, you know, I actually liked some of BHN! This is just, meh. I know what you mean about feeling pissy lately as well, I had a rather heated discussion last week about Chris pissing all over Capitol and thinking he's god. His egotism is second to none, except maybe Mad Richard. No, even Richard never said his band was bigger than Mozart (?!@)

[serialkarma.livejournal.com]

I had a rather heated discussion last week about Chris pissing all over Capitol and thinking he's god. His egotism is second to none

Dude, there was a thing on NPR the other day about that, and the band basically came off sounding like Class A whiners. I was going to email you about it and then, uh, forgot, I think.

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the band basically came off sounding like Class A whiners

See, the problem here is two-fold. One, like you said 'the band' come off as whiners, but it's not everybody else whinging, it's just Chris, but everybody is tarred with the same brush. Two, Chris seems to have lost the ability to think before he speaks. He always been very earnest, once upon a time it was endearing, now it's just grating.

If you really are the greatest band ever, shouldn't your work speak for you? I'm not saying Radiohead are the greatest band ever, but they're certainly very good at what they do -- do you ever hear Thom having a wank in the press about the genius of The Bends? My point exactly.

[serialkarma.livejournal.com]

See, the problem here is two-fold. One, like you said 'the band' come off as whiners, but it's not everybody else whinging, it's just Chris, but everybody is tarred with the same brush. Two, Chris seems to have lost the ability to think before he speaks. He always been very earnest, once upon a time it was endearing, now it's just grating.

Exactly. The other problem I had was that they (or Chris, or maybe it was Chris and one of the other guys, I don't remember) were complaining about being corporatized and being stuck in the corporate music machine and having to do all this *publicity* and whatnot and basically have to put some of the creative stuff on hold for a while and how tough it is to be the ones making so much money for their label. And while on the one hand, yeah, I can see how that can be frustrating, on the other hand I'm thinking, you're smart boys, anybody who pays any attention to the music industry whatsoever knows exactly what happens when you sign on to a major label, so isn't it just wee bit disingenuous to be complaining about that now? You knew what you were getting into! Deal!

um. [/rant]

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

That's *exactly* what I said.

[serialkarma.livejournal.com]

Of *course* it is! BRAIN.

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Word.

[circe-tigana.livejournal.com]

Hahaha. Is it worse to think you're bigger than Mozart or Jesus? Discuss.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

*snicker*

The Lennon debacle versus the Martin big-mouth.

[circe-tigana.livejournal.com]

So if the beatles are bigger than jesus, and oasis are bigger than the beatles, and coldplay is bigger than wolfgang, then what does that do for the price of tea in china?

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I don't know; I get mine from this old guy, who brings it over in his hollow leg every six months when he goes off to visit his six children and eighteeen grandkids and Shanghai.

[circe-tigana.livejournal.com]

Blaise loves Chinatown, with its strange rank scents and its bustle of noise and colour and rot. But he hates it too, because as a place it's not home, and he'll never have that again.

Which makes him angry, because home was always Theodore's thing. Home was Draco's, and a fucking millstone it was to both of them, though Blaise's always gotten family, maybe even more than they did.

Fuck, he never even knew he'd miss home until even the idea of it was taken from him.

Blaise misses Theodore and Draco, too, desperately. But thinking of them is even more dangerous than thinking of home, so he sits in Chinatown, on a stool at the little tea stall, and thinks of nothing, instead.

[kismeteve.livejournal.com]

*snerk*

[rozza.livejournal.com]

True, BHN is not a bad album, although it was a step down from Morning Glory and we won't even attempt to compare it to Definitely Maybe. But you know what came next--Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and then... I don't even remember what their last album was called. The hype around X&Y reminds me of how everyone began to wank all over BHN before it came out. Meanwhile, I was standing there going "...."

I feel very bitter about Coldplay. You know, last week or so Caz and I were talking about how earnest Chris was in the beginning. He still talked before speaking but it was funny. How else would we have learned about Alice Hill? Nowadays its like he's still trying to pretend he's earnest but he's not. He pretends he's modest and self-deprecating, but he's NOT. He's just obnoxious. Anyone who followed the band in the early days can spot the difference a mile away. I'm so sick of hearing how he's in the greatest band in the world, and I have to say I love Thom Yorke even more so for referring to Coldplay as "lifestyle music."

The sad thing is that I still love Jonny and Will very much. They're fantastic guys, and even though I'll make fun of Guy til the end of time I like him too. Without them Coldplay would be a lost cause. I just wish they could keep their tard of a lead singer under check.

[kismeteve.livejournal.com]

I refuse to believe anyone married to Gwyneth Paltrow is humble. Her ego must have rubbed off on him somehow.

[rozza.livejournal.com]

He's always had a big ego, but there was also a part of him that believed he was all talk. Now that part appears to be gooooone. I'm sure being Gwyneth's baby's daddy played a role in that. Argh.

[kismeteve.livejournal.com]

Poor man. Well, not literally. But still.

I still can't believe they named that child Apple. Poor child.

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He pretends he's modest and self-deprecating, but he's NOT.

I think in the beginning, when he was saying how great they were, we found it endearing. Why? Because nobody knew who the fuck he, or we, were talking about. And it was okay, because it was tempered with his insecurities about them actually not being that fucking, good, which the boys sans Chris still admit. But then the fame hit and suddenly Chris thought he was fucking Noel and Liam, and in true Oasis fashion, the press got bigger than the music. I so agree that Standing on the Shoulders of Giants (?) is proof of this.*

It's a shame he's grown into this obnoxious wanker, but I suppose it was always a possbility, we just hoped otherwise.



*I have no idea how many albums Oasis have released to date now. I have the first three, past that I lost interest. Sometimes I listen to Be Here Now, and get nostalgic for that period of time in my life, but the album? Meh.

[rozza.livejournal.com]

I think you're right. He was always so back and forth. One minute he'd say, "We're the best band in the world!" but then he'd talk about how he lost his virginity at the age of 22 or how he didn't drink or curse. The (at the time) Wannabe Rock God and the Insecure Dolt. Oh, and the Artist. There you go, the Three Faces of Chris. Heh.

Just think, in five or so years, when it becomes obvious that Coldplay is in fact not the next U2, he will not only be obnoxious but bitter. He wants stardom, Bono-style. Always has. The other guys? Nah, not so much. Maybe Guye, to a degree, but we have theories about that don't we. ;)

I swear Oasis had an album after Standing on the Shoulder of Giants but I don't know what it was called. I think their newest is their... sixth?