hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2007-10-30 07:57 am

Somebody call an exterminator!

Because I am never afraid to mince words I'm just going to say that IMO, Heroes is sucking the big sophomore ass this year. It's slow and monotonous and they are stretching themselves entirely too thin.

If you already have an ensemble cast, adding to that without utilizing what is already there is sloppy and wasteful. And also? Hella convoluted. Last night, I got up and walked away from Heroes, because there was nothing happening.* It pains me to see such a talented cast just picking the lint from their navels.

*I'm having shades of Smallville S2 here, people. Just saying.




a) Kill the boring twins already. When even People magazine is telling you that your casting choices need to be 86'd, you have problems, Tim. I can see how you wanted to go all international and show the human condition. That's great, that's good, that's awesomecakes with sauce. HOWEVER. Maya and Alejandro are good for nothing. NOT-HING. They are getting Sylar home, lovely. How about he kills them, and then kills everybody else and oh, wait, we did that already. Not all recycling is bad, however...

b) Are you really pulling the save the world card, again? Wow, Tim. I didn't know you'd used up all your good shit already and were being forced to recycle so soon. Sad, baby, v sad. Whatever the case, bring Peter home, this shit is tired. So is his beard. This Irish storyline would be the worst one you'd ever made if it weren't for the No-Wonder Twins.

c) Stop murdering the rest of the world's languages and accents! Jaysis. You want to go to Ireland, rock out. Get me a pint. You want to go to Japan, it's all gravy. But do not think that cheap backlot scenery and people who wouldn't know a proper Irish accent if it jumped them outside a pub are sufficient ambassadors. Stop spending all your cash on special FX and get yourself some quality actors and locations. And stop trying to conquer the whole world at once! You have to do it one continent at a time. Any dictator will tell you that.

d) I think the impending Writer's Strike is the best possible thing that can happen to this show (as I've been saying for the last week or two). They need to burn this current story arc, pretend is never happen, i.e. PULL A DALLAS, and make this crap be Peter in a coma.

Start the whole season over again. NOW.

e) For the love of god, streamline your cast. Have a month of killing. Just kill people off every episode. Not random ass periphery characters, but people who are actually on the show for longer than three seconds. You have TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN. They're spoiling the meal.

f) If West is another Petrelli, just tell us already. We know you can only have chemistry with people you are related to on this show. We get that. I have seen Firefly finally, I know how this all works.


I believe you should do one thing and do it well, and then, once you speak that language, you can learn another. One good year does not a whole series make. At this rate I'd be shocked if they made it to syndication, which is very sad making.*

*Oh, I know NBC will drag the Golden Goose out, but it's going to be painful as hell to see it done at the rate they are going.



I am not completely out of sorts today. Here watch David Anders singing. Oh, and Greg Grunberg too. Adrian, ilu.

Also, I finally watched Firefly the series. I know I am late, whatever. I only watched it b/c I'd watched Serenity six times. Hey, Firefly didn't have Chiwetel Ejiofor, Serenity did. I love everyone. I want a Mal. And a Jayne. And a Zoe. And now I see who made too-close siblings all the rage. Anybody want to recommend their favorite Firefly story to me? Hit me up. I am equal-opportunity anything and everything, except Inara who annoyed me to near-death.
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[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
All my Firefly recs are here, mostly Mal or River-centric, het, gen, girlslash and crazy space incest.

[identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
WORD. I want a Heroes killing spree toot sweet.

(Not by Nathan. I just like this icon.)

[identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It didn't have Chiwetel Ejiofor, but it did have Richard Brooks (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1444462/). *G*

[identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I approve of your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, Heroes. I totally tuned out upon the realization I simply stopped caring. Or maybe I never cared enough. But it was fun to watch regardless of how little I cared for most of the cast during S1. But now.. Meh.

S1 is airing in my country now and I sort of want to tell people not to bother at all. I have a feeling most of them will end up extremely disappointed. It's sort of sad, this could've been THE awesomely thrilling mystery show to kick Lost's ass.

They should totally pull a Dallas. It's all just a comic book Hiro was reading!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
You know that is the only episode I really really didn't like. The black man threatening the white woman with violation just made my skin crawl.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not so annoyed at Heroes as you, but I just have to say I love it when you get your bitch on.

What pairings are you interested in in Firefly? Or are we equal opportunity with this one?

[identity profile] way2busymom.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Someone else thought Heroes did kinda suck last night. I thought it was just me being totally & mind-numbingly exhausted last night.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And his character was named after a Confederate Soldier. I didn't get if that was supposed to mean something or what, but it was *weird*.

[identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't actually think they meant to play into that, honestly. But beyond that issue? I just thought it was dull. It did not stop me from flailing around, though, and muttering with glee about Robinette being on my screen again. *cough*

[identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
For the love of god, streamline your cast. Have a month of killing. Just kill people off every episode. Not random ass periphery characters, but people who are actually on the show for longer than three seconds. You have TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN. They're spoiling the meal.

YES YES YES. Oh, thank you GOD yes. As long as none of the dead people are Petrellis, Kring can kill off as many fucking characters as he wants. It's TOO MUCH. I detest it when creators say their show is about the "story" and not the "characters" because that automatically says to me: (1) they obviously don't care if their shit gets cancelled; (2) they don't give a crap about their fans; and (3) they have NO idea how fandom works or why people tune in. Kring is a stupid, stupid man.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Firefly was the first show I ever read and wrote (really bad) fic for.

Other pairings will come and go, but Mal/Simon will probably always be my greatest love.

I can give you recs... mostly Mal/Simon, but also Simon/Jayne, Mal/Jayne, and Mal/Simon/Jayne, and possibly Mal/Simon/Saffron, but now I can't remember if that fic actually exists, or if I only dreamed about it.

[identity profile] brandil.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Three Firefly Recs: http://del.icio.us/brandil/Firefly
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[personal profile] starfishchick 2007-10-30 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually don't read tonnes of Firefly fic - not sure why - but my favourite Firefly fic is actually a crossover: A Million Light Years from Home by, um, [livejournal.com profile] musesfool. (Harry Potter/Firefly. Sirius, ensemble, gen.)

[identity profile] knowledgequeen.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Julian Sark, singing. Oh, my heart. I miss Alias so much.

And I don't have any fic recs, unfortunately, but there is a River in my brain and she chews on it from time to time. My OTP of doom is crossover, though: River and Dean Winchester from Supernatural.

[identity profile] wyoluvr.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
http://del.icio.us/wyoluvr/firefly

not all fic, but i didn't always have a 'fanfic' tag, so there's no easy was to separate them.

THANK JESUS someone else hates this season of Heroes. i'm not really watching so much as fastforwarding, but i think i'm almost done with that. dude, i never thought Peter could bore me. he's pretty! but i hate that storyline so much that not even pretty can carry it through.

[identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm less willing to write off the entire season to date, but last night was not of the good. Ugh.

West needs to die. Now. And Mohinder needs to regain custody of his brain from wherever the Company hid it.
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[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I wrote River/Dean fic once. They do work in a crazy sort of way. [livejournal.com profile] celli called it Crazy Space Wincest.
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[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. Thank you.

[identity profile] maiahaha.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Eight recs, though two of them are a crossover with Supernatural lol. (http://del.icio.us/shsharktango/Firefly)

I tend to read mostly Mal/Jayne, Wash/Zoe, Crazy Space Incest!, and River/Jayne. :D

[identity profile] smonsterbite.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The story goes that: Firefly as a series was inspired by The Killer Angels (http://www.powells.com/biblio/17-9780345348104-7), which features Jubal Early. Turns out Early was actually one of Nathan Fillion's ancestors, and when Joss found that out he was so tickled he used it in "Objects in Space."

That story didn't make much sense to me until I read Killer Angels (which is a pretty good book, btw)... Jubal Early in that book shares some major character traits with his namesake in Firefly; ruthlessness, calculated violence, acting on his own.

HOWEVER AND STILL, the scene with Kaylee made my skin crawl, too. I get how it plays into the whole "objects" theme, how Jubal sees people as objects, but the skanky race issues definitely come into play. For me, having the Operative be black, too, didn't help.

I feel like a character using or threatening sexual violence is frequently a shortcut tactic to show just how EEEEEEVVVILLLL he or she is, and I'm tired of it as a trope. For a long long long list of reasons in addition to the aforementioned skanky race issues.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
*shares the icon love*

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, that was the wrong icon. (Oh, that hardship of so many Nathan icons)

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, Killer Angels is a fantastic book, although I haven't read it since high school, so I'd forgotten about Jubal Early.

For me, that scene with Kaylee was more about showing how Early was, as you say, utterly ruthless. I think he threatened her with that in particular because it was the easiest and fastest way to scare her witless and get her to do what he wanted, not so much because he was actually interested in raping her--he was a sociopath, not a sexual predator. Unfortunately, as I think we're all agreeing, it backfired for a bunch of reasons having nothing to do with the text itself.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I get how it plays into the whole "objects" theme, how Jubal sees people as objects, but the skanky race issues definitely come into play. For me, having the Operative be black, too, didn't help.

I feel like a character using or threatening sexual violence is frequently a shortcut tactic to show just how EEEEEEVVVILLLL he or she is, and I'm tired of it as a trope. For a long long long list of reasons in addition to the aforementioned skanky race issues.


WORD. And also? WORD. I read Killer Angels a very long time ago (read: it was for school, so I didn't read it as much as I, err, glanced at it) but don't really remember much about it. I think what got to me was that *that* was the very last episode in the boxed set. I'd been in so much love (Trash was AWESOME as was the one with the Mal & Wash bondage) and then to end with that left a sour taste in my mouth.

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