hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2007-11-13 10:32 am

Can it be writing times nao?

My schedule is slammed. I mean damn. Of course now that I'm crazy busy (again) all I want to do is write Shia! Chuck/Bryce kidnapping-fic. Typical. So, like, last night there was some stuff of the telly. Let's talk about it.



[livejournal.com profile] serialkarma and I spent much of Chuck texting back and forth. Okay, I txted and she laughed at me.

Me: Chuck is so fricking adorable
Her: Duh.
Me: Chuck + Summer Roberts!
Me: Chuck is Seth. Only straight.
Me: Rachel Bilson is Josh's gay girl-crush. (Josh is the gay part of that equation in case you were curious).
Her: Good point!
Me: Wow, there was some vitriol in that line about cheating on your girlfriend, Rachel. Got something to say to Adam? Don't worry, you were too hot for him anyway.
Me: Britney for the climax scene? Wow. SO GAY, JOSH!
Me: Sarah/Chuck = meh. Sarah/Casey Jayne for the win!
Me: I think I may actually miss Harry Tang, which is prolly one of the more unfortunate names evar. Who wants hair in their Tang?

Re trailer for next week: If Bryce isn't in that cryo-container, I will choke a bitch.


Let me preface this next bit by saying I have been very unhappy with Heroes. (Shocker!) And I've made no bones about that. I decided last week that I would pull my very own Dallas and just disregard the first six episodes, because face it, we could all be more creative if we took a dump and smeared it on the walls Alvarez style.*

*Alvarez style = Oz reference for the unaware

Despite lots of txt messages promising me that I would approve of last night, I was like, I've been burned before! Screw you, Kring!




Three weeks ago, Tim Kring said fans were watching the show wrong. Last week ago he says, MY BAD! I Suxxors!! You can see how I don't believe a thing out the man's mouth. And yet, last night was kind of awesome.


1. Adam/Peter. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about how SARK can live forever, because that's SO fucking Sark, and we all know that he's the child Rambaldi was referring to. Sydney Bristow who? **

**Sydney Bristow = reference for the unaware

2. You expect me to believe Peter has been carrying his wedding picture to Nathan the whole fucking time after how dismissive he's was when he saw it? What the shit man? See, and this is yet another fucking reason that the first six episodes were full of shit. Peter did nothing but disregard that photo when he saw and now they're telling me he's been carrying it around? Suck my left tit, Kring!

2a. He finally remembers Nathan, son of a bitch that took long enough. I said that reunion wasn't going to happen before November sweeps! HAHAHAHAHA! I win all the cookies!

2b. Peter essplodes into bitty Petrelli pieces, and then comes back together, but his clothing is all whole? The fuck? Whatever, poor Nathan. *pets* Now all those flashbacks make sense. That's some hardcore PTSD, people.

2c. Wait. THE FUCK? Peter, you save Nathan and then you run the fuck AWAY? Did Nathan teach you nothing at all about sticking together? Nothing at all? Who was by your bedside every fucking time your ass was in hospital?! You save him, and then you wake up with blonde chickie (who kind of skeeves me out) all over you, and you're just like, oh whatevercakes? STAB! STAB! STAB! And then you STAY? Knowing that Nathan is out there on his own and fucked up from saving YOUR ASS? STAB!STAB!STAB!


[takes deep breath]

3. Niki. Yawn.

4. Adam/Peter take two. I KNOW one of them is jerking off while the other talks. I'll put money on it. [sidebar: I know David Anders is American, but thank God he's not talking with an American accent, because that would just be too weird. I know his pseudo-English accent is off, but it's still way better than the valley boy thing. ]

5. Nathan. Poor woobie. (Now, there's a word I've not used in a long time).

6. Elle is playing Delilah to Peter's Samson? Well, if it gets rid of that bad wig he had on in the beginning I'm totally down for whatever. That hair color didn't even look right next to Milo's skin! Less money on FX more on better make-up!

6a. Yeah, Elle… not really feeling you. I get the whole poor cooped up emotionally stunted sex kitten thing they are going for, but I don't find you attractive, just really poorly realized. Shocking people as a sexual release? Yeah, not really doing it for me.

6b. I like how they made sure to throw out Elle's age, so that everyone could see that she's the perfect age for Peter. Her 24 to his 26. Really subtle there, Kring, I'm sure the fans'll hop right on that that. Unless they all AU your ass and make Adam Claire's dad, so then that stuff is back on the line. Did I just make a case for the Claire/Peter people? Ew.


[Damn. My breakfast went cold.]

7. Some other stuff happens. And then there's the scene with Heidi. Someone somewhere once wrote Angela/Heidi, you must be feeling really proud of your ass right now. So, obviously Mama Badass' power has something to do with the power of suggestion via touch, but my extrapolation from that goes a bit further:

Everyone observes how much Nathan and Peter touch, yes? We have a whole fandom built around this. Who do you think they got that from? If Mama P can get you to do what she wants by touching you, you damn well can believe she used that on Nathan and Peter, and you damn well can believe that's where all the shoulder clapping and arm hugging come from. Nathan and Peter may not have her exact power, but for the first 20-30 years of their lives they’ve learned you could get someone to do what you wanted by touching them/steering them that way, so that's what they do. Just because they don't have this power, doesn't mean they can't manifest it in some manner. This is the power of suggestion, kids. It works well, no?


8. So, Peter and Elle are fooling around? Is that what's been going on next door to Adam's cell? Peter has seen more hetero action this season since I dunno when. Stop ramming it down my throat, Tim. My gag reflex doesn't approve.

9. The first time Peter walked through the walls of Adam's cells how many people could fucking see the glitter and porn? You know they took one look at each other and thought, "You are so much fucking hotter than I thought you'd be. I am SO tapping that ass."

[Which leads me to my favorite part...]


10. Adam actually keeps his word to Peter and gives Nathan his blood. This means two things to me.


a) Nathan is now going to live forever. Peter will never be alone. For some reason watching this scene cast me back about sixteen thousand years to my time in Smallville and the whole Supes thing. Superman will live forever. He'll never die. Everyone he loves will die, but not him. People who can't die, people like Kensei/Adam and Claire and Peter, lead a lonely existence without someone else by their side. Now, Peter has Nathan. That makes me VERY happy. That also sets the scene for about fifteen million super!future AUs, perhaps set in the 51st century with some guy named Captain Jack Harkness!

b) Nobody is selfless. Adam did this shit for a reason. He knows who Nathan is, because you know he knows Peter is a Petrelli. He may've been locked up for 30-odd years, but Nathan is at least 38, which means Nathan would've been 8 when Adam got locked away. Adam would have to know who Nathan is, and we already know that Adam was part of The Cabal, so yeah, altruism my ASS.


Other thoughts...

11. Death to the No-Wonder Twins! Death now!

12. I cannot believe DL went out like that. Tim, you are so sacked.

13. Adrian Pasdar, every day of my life you get hotter. Plz to continue with this.

14. There's a promotion NBC is running where you can design your own hero and the best one will be on the show. I've got a better idea, how about you kill a hero? Like you come up with the most creative ways to kill off a hero and the most creative one gets to 86 someone? Let's try that with the twins! Or Niki! Or Claire! I would SO be all about that promotion. I would work on it all the time, I swear.


Anyone can tell that this episode should have been the first one of the season. That's like basic math, so again, like I said, I'll just go Dallas on the first six episodes, except to wave Tim's stupidity flag in his face again. The WGA strike is not a pretty thing, but it's clearly the best thing to happen to this show since Adrian Pasdar was cast. It may not sound like it from all the hollering, but I did enjoy this. I mean, at least something happened for a change, right?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
HAI! *squeezes*

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Is the power of regeneration really blood-transmissible?

How else could Adam's blood have healed Nathan? It has to be blood transmittable or Nathan would still be a crispy critter.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'd prolly just blow them up for reals. Or maybe put them all in deep freeze in Antarctica like Megatron! Yeah, cos that really worked well in Transformers... Oh, I'd bake a few and stew a few and stick a few in the oven like the lady in the gingerbread house. I'd feed some to the sharks and drop a couple from great heights -- but obviously not the regenerating ones or anybody who can fly. I'd suffocate them and run them over with mack trucks and disassemble them and put their body parts in different countries so they couldn't put humpty dumpty back together again. Wow. Okay, that just relieved a lot of stress. Wow.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't find Elle attractive, but presumably she's supposed to be so, so I figured they must be doing it, what with Peter's very asserted heterosexuality and all. I'd really like to not think about her very much though, I have to say. AdamSark/Peter seems like a good plan though. At least until Nathan gets his man back.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I know, but Nathan is/was a poor woobie! He was a poor crispy critter woobie!

[identity profile] girl-wonder.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I've got a better idea, how about you kill a hero?

This was me last night.

Me: The only problem with Adam is that it means Claire can live forever. Can't we kill her and keep the cool immortal?
Roommate1: Well, if she gets severe brain damage, she's dead.
Roomate2: Let's chop off her head, Highlander-style.
Me: This is a good plan.

And you already know my opinions on Elle.

Also, everyone is Adam's kid. Ie: he's been around for 400 years, so he totally made it with everyone's great-grandparents. That's how they all have powers, because the show is rejected. Y/N?

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that you focus on the scary wig in that picture disturbs me a little bit. Though now that I'm noticing things, Milo has really big feet.

And I'm pretty sure I'm writing evil Nathan/Peter/Adam fic right now, but I'm still in denial about it.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't even have known who it was if you hadn't talked about it in your LJ, baby! It's not like I can see their faces! I can't even... who's on top. Oh, hush! Milo has big shoes is all. You know he's like George and wears the wrong size to mess with people ;-)
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (the symbol for intensity is intensity)

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2007-11-14 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I'm still boggling over the fact that Adam's blood and not Peter's worked, and wondering how Nathan managed not to react to some antigen--he'd have a decent chance with Claire since she's his child or Peter since he's his brother, but man, you do not put your blood into someone else without doing a type and match or you can cause them to die just as fast as Nathan healed.

*used to be the blood transfusion committee secretary at a major research hospital*

*is flailing a whole lot*
cleverthylacine: Nathan Petrelli feels evil and so do I (nathan needs to choke a bitch now)

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2007-11-14 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
He totally was!!!

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't even have known who it was if you hadn't talked about it in your LJ, baby!

How many men do you know of who would be suspended in midair on top of one another while other people were filming them... I'm not sure I want an answer to that question. And I think in the above scenario Adrian is Peter Pan and Milo is Wendy. Ooooh! Heroes RPS Peter Pan AU! They are all total Lost Boys who like to play Pirates and get into trouble and never grow up! And Milo is like Wendy who is sort of their mother and teaches them to behave properly and dress right, but really wants to be playing pirates too. And it's possible I need to go take some medication now.

[identity profile] practical-puss.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
That also sets the scene for about fifteen million super!future AUs, perhaps set in the 51st century with some guy named Captain Jack Harkness!

I feel oddly light-headed.
I' slightly horrified to find that I still think Nathan is attractive as hell, even deep fried. That's not right.

[identity profile] morgaine22.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
So if the first two words out of Peter's mouth when he reappears (in two weeks) isn't "WHERE'S NATHAN?", can I punch someone? Like a random person on the street? Because that needs to be the first thing he says now that the memory's back. And then maybe, "I feel like a hamburger." And Sark can go, "What's that like? Ba-dum-PISH"

One thing, though: soooo Nathan's healed and then a month later he's got the Grizzly Adams, he's a daytime drunk and his wife has taken the kids and left him? Man, 30 days and she's OUT. She's all, 'Fuck this! I'm gonna bounce!' Really, Kring? A month? After YEARS of marriage? That was my biggest 'WTF' for the ep.

[identity profile] sarkastic.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Nathan/Peter/Cap'n Jack has to be the best random crossover threesome pairing ever created in the minds of fans. And the fact that Nathan can live forever with Peter makes me emit really alarming schmoopy happy noises. \o/

[identity profile] nebt-het.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
7 sidebar: WORD!!!!

10a. Oh GAWD this is awesome- send the Cpt Jack stories my way!!

10b. My initial thought was that Adam was using Peter to break him out. But then there was no reason for him to actually go to the hospital and cure Nathan. Especially as they were almost caught- so yeah something else is going on. However it is hard for me to to tell ulterior motives from bad writing! Because the whole idea of Peter just happening to be put in the cell next to Adam and then both breaking out sure seems like a set up of someone!

Heroes promotion- I was actually thinking that was their way to get around the writers strike!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
How many men do you know of who would be suspended in midair on top of one another while other people were filming them... I'm not sure I want an answer to that question.

Off the top of my head? It could be Torchwood you know. Or Dr Who. Or my mom! My mom can fly. Did you know that? My mom can do anything.

Heroes RPS Peter Pan AU! They are all total Lost Boys who like to play Pirates and get into trouble and never grow up! And Milo is like Wendy who is sort of their mother and teaches them to behave properly and dress right, but really wants to be playing pirates too. And it's possible I need to go take some medication now.

Oh, Lord, you're adorable.

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
Heeeee. With that icon I feel welcomed by the entire cast of Ocean's! Hello boyz!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but darling, this is TV. You can't expect that sort of thoroughness or factualness from network TV, that's just not going to happen. This is their means to an end, this is not about reality.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I await it.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Roomate2: Let's chop off her head, Highlander-style.
Me: This is a good plan.


Best plan I've heard all morning. Elle = feh. And that plan about Adam being the original man....

Oh, fucking DUH! That's why his name is Adam!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I' slightly horrified to find that I still think Nathan is attractive as hell, even deep fried. That's not right.

It's Nathan. His powers of hotassery are strong like that.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
And then maybe, "I feel like a hamburger."

I just laughed and laughed.

One thing, though: soooo Nathan's healed and then a month later he's got the Grizzly Adams, he's a daytime drunk and his wife has taken the kids and left him? Man, 30 days and she's OUT. She's all, 'Fuck this! I'm gonna bounce!' Really, Kring? A month? After YEARS of marriage? That was my biggest 'WTF' for the ep.

Yeah, Kring's got a couple issues, but like I told someone else who was peeved about the blood transfusion without matching, this isn't about reality, this is a show about superheroes.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
And the fact that Nathan can live forever with Peter makes me emit really alarming schmoopy happy noises. \o/

I can understand that. Really.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
10b. My initial thought was that Adam was using Peter to break him out. But then there was no reason for him to actually go to the hospital and cure Nathan.

Oh, no, Adam is clearly using Peter for some end means, which we don't know just yet. I think he prolly healed Nathan to get Peter to trust him, or possibly for blowjobs. Either one is possible.

Heroes promotion- I was actually thinking that was their way to get around the writers strike!

You are SO right! But I like my idea better ;-)

[identity profile] scienceofheroes.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi!

You don't know me, but I'm butting in anyway.

I'm writing a book called "The Science of Heroes" (Berkeley, fall 2008), which isn't so much about how Kring&co. do it wrong (because that would be too easy and also a downer) but about if there was a way to do the things they show us, how that could work and what we do know and can do similar to whatever they show us.

So, yes, given that the blood transfusion is nonsense... Adam apparently injected some of his whole blood into Nathan's bloodsteam. So Nathan, whose system is under a lot of stress, suddenly has alien proteins and cells from Adam's blood. Nathan's immune system attacks the invaders, as we might expect.

But the blood includes Adam's white blood cells: ie, not only are those cells likely to attack anything that they perceive as alien (ie, all of Nathan), but they are from an effectively immortal person whose cells 1)
apparently can regress to become totipotent stem cells in order to regrow any necessary body part, and 2)do this incredibly quickly!

So my question is: why doesn't Nathan turn into a clone of Adam?

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