hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2006-03-15 10:09 am

Ah, fandom.

[livejournal.com profile] thecomfychair has informed me that on 1 April, Jeremy Piven Ari will be have a special on Discovery HD called Journey of a Lifetime with Ari, err, Jeremy Piven -- because after the Oscar business, Ari had to get away. Right. I digress. I don't have Discovery HD. I don't know anyone who has it, but one of you bitches must and then you can share with the class. Please?




Yesterday, the beloved [livejournal.com profile] violetsmiles had a meme asking how you'd found her LJ, what your favorite Prince song was (you can't choose just one for real), and what song made you think of fandom. The last one actually had me stymied for a bit until this morning when Damon Albarn started hollering that he was looking for Girls who want boys/ who like boys to be girls/ who do boys like they're girls/ who do girls like they're boys/ Always should be someone you really love -- and I said, oh, Blur's 'Girls & Boys' THAT'S SO FANDOM.

And then a few hours later I got an e-mail that people were talking shit about a friend of mine in their locked posts, and besides just being rude and juvenile and crass, my first thought was, I've so been here!

Sometimes people judge you without knowing a damn thing about you. Sometimes people are just that infantile and petty. Some people just have to get their hate on. And I thought of Timex Social Club's 'Rumours' -- I'll think I'll write my congressman, and tell him to pass a bill, the next time they catch somebody starting rumors---shoot to kill! -- because THAT'S SO FANDOM, TOO.

At the end of the day though, we're all in this together. Love it, hate it, want to take a torch to it and burn that branch off of the family tapestry, we do this fandom shit together. No one else understands it, and protects it the way we do, and that's what makes it so interesting. And in that instance, well, there's only one song for it: Sister Sledge 'We Are Family' -- BECAUSE THAT'S JUST FANDOM.

[identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have this motto that I stole from a close friend in high school: Don't say anything behind anyone's back that you wouldn't say to their face.

Which doesn't mean that I'm gonna be all up in your face declaring it, but if you asked me straight up, "Did you say X?" I'd say so.

The same pretty much goes for LJ, on some level.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god. All this love. Am I dying? Shit. *Leaves everything to charity and Ari.*

[identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but to your face I might try to say it a little differently, even if I say what is, in essence, the same thing.

[identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
...which is why I left the comment here, asking that. :)

[identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, absolutely. I don't think there's anything fundamentally two-faced about diplomacy: that's kind of an adjunct to the whole "copping to saying it" thing, I guess. It's sort of like the difference between, "You look fat in that dress," and "I don't think that cut is very flattering to your figure."

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
My personal philosophy is that if you can't say something nice about someone, you shouldn't say anything at all, or you should be very vague -- unless they've really fucked you over. People underestimate the power of the vague. At the very least you shouldn't put your business where it can be printed, copied and passed out and discussed at nauseum. I think if you put it out there, it will come back to you. Naturally, you are free to think whatever the hell you want, that's one of those fabulous things about being a human being, but I just tend to think a little tact goes a long way. As for someone else snitching, well, that's a whole other kettle of fish.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, what she said. A little tact can go a long way.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what [livejournal.com profile] ethrosdemon is saying is that the situation wasn't the same this time. This incident didn't affect me directly, and in the past when people have talked about me, they've left their posts wide open and then been surprised when I found out, which is really another matter altogether. I think if you don't want people to know, you shouldn't put it out in public. I don't lock posts in this LJ, well, except for that one time I wrote twincest in Harry Potter.

[identity profile] literaryll.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure that I have Discovery HD and if I do I will record Ari for you and mail it to you. I'll check when I get home :)

[identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
For reals.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, have you read the Rodneysaur story? It's fucking rockstar, man.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your ass for the Blur. I first heard that song in connection with one of my fandoms of old, and I've associated it with fandom (no matter which) ever since.

That and, you know, boys in eyeliner. Rawr.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Blur don't wear eyeliner! Apparently I'm the only person on earth who doesn't find men in eyeliner attractive, oh well. George doesn't wear eyeliner, I'm good.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant the message of their song, not them. They'd look funny in eyeliner. I also find men not in eyeliner attractive. I just find people attractive. I'm queer like that. But George makes it all good. Let's hug it out.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I just find people attractive.

Word.

But George makes it all good. Let's hug it out.

Double word, with a spritz of Ari on the side.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, even the GFY bitches are powerless in the face of George.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
gfy? school me.

[identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew there was something I meant to tell you. damn. Have you seen the pics Perez had? Ari is working the facial hair something fierce.

My favorite Prince song is "Little Red Corvette". hah.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
GFY = Go Fug Yourself (http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/). More specific to what we're talking about, them weak in the face of George (http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/go_fug_yourself/2006/03/oscar_fugshion_.html).

They've got an LJ feed here (http://syndicated.livejournal.com/go_fug_yourself/profile).

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, the fugly girls, yes, I know them.

[identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend to enjoy their ones based upon red carpet snafus. I'm kinda iffy about papparazzi shots.

[identity profile] avid-slacker.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently I'm the only person on earth who doesn't find men in eyeliner attractive, oh well. George doesn't wear eyeliner, I'm good.

Boys in makeup, boys cross-dressing, not really sexy imo. Boys being boys are hot, even the pretty ones like Tom Welling.

On a whole other subject, I heard you were getting pressure to write George/Jake. I'd just like to put it out there that if you were to do this I would be devoted for life. I haven't been so spun on a pairing since early days of Ryan/Seth.

[identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com 2006-03-16 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I'd been in fandom about four months or so when I started seeing locked, filtered posts bitching about other fans, and when I got involved in my first "wank" a few months later, it cemented my decision.

I'm a pretty direct girl. If I like someone, they know it. If I dislike someone, they know it. And the thing that really bothered me about fandom was how it was so... well, I'm not going to say anything about someone in locked post that I wouldn't say in an unlocked post. First, it's not a cool way to act. Second, dude, THE PERSON WILL FIND OUT. Because, really, there have been two different times when people have said shit about me in locked posts, and people who I talk with a lot, though not necessarily on LJ where people can see it, have sent me the contents of the posts. I never mentioned it on LJ and mostly just laughed, rolled my eyes, and said, "spineless, bitches," but it still wasn't *cool*. And third, isn't there better shit we could be doing with our time?

Dude, "We Are Family" is perfect. Fandom is a family. And sure, sometimes it's your Uncle Jesse who drinks too much, always says the wrong thing, and will offend you at least once in a three hour period, but that's still family.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-16 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I knew there was something I meant to tell you. damn. Have you seen the pics Perez had? Ari is working the facial hair something fierce.

Huh. *goes to see Perez*

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