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[livejournal.com profile] thecomfychair has informed me that on 1 April, Jeremy Piven Ari will be have a special on Discovery HD called Journey of a Lifetime with Ari, err, Jeremy Piven -- because after the Oscar business, Ari had to get away. Right. I digress. I don't have Discovery HD. I don't know anyone who has it, but one of you bitches must and then you can share with the class. Please?




Yesterday, the beloved [livejournal.com profile] violetsmiles had a meme asking how you'd found her LJ, what your favorite Prince song was (you can't choose just one for real), and what song made you think of fandom. The last one actually had me stymied for a bit until this morning when Damon Albarn started hollering that he was looking for Girls who want boys/ who like boys to be girls/ who do boys like they're girls/ who do girls like they're boys/ Always should be someone you really love -- and I said, oh, Blur's 'Girls & Boys' THAT'S SO FANDOM.

And then a few hours later I got an e-mail that people were talking shit about a friend of mine in their locked posts, and besides just being rude and juvenile and crass, my first thought was, I've so been here!

Sometimes people judge you without knowing a damn thing about you. Sometimes people are just that infantile and petty. Some people just have to get their hate on. And I thought of Timex Social Club's 'Rumours' -- I'll think I'll write my congressman, and tell him to pass a bill, the next time they catch somebody starting rumors---shoot to kill! -- because THAT'S SO FANDOM, TOO.

At the end of the day though, we're all in this together. Love it, hate it, want to take a torch to it and burn that branch off of the family tapestry, we do this fandom shit together. No one else understands it, and protects it the way we do, and that's what makes it so interesting. And in that instance, well, there's only one song for it: Sister Sledge 'We Are Family' -- BECAUSE THAT'S JUST FANDOM.

Date: 2006-03-15 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com
I don't have links, but my songs of fandom have always been ... well, Tori Amos's Waitress (boys all think she's living kindness, ask a fellow waitress, I believe in PEACE, bitch, etc) and a song by Amy Rigby that has a chorus that goes "why do I pull wings off butterflies, look for things that hurt my eyes ..." and David Baerwald's Love #29 (I trust you to be vicious, I trust you to be cruel, I trust that you'll continue to be love #29). Which is funny, because all these years, I really do love being in fandom.

Date: 2006-03-15 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
You are very cute when you're riled up like this.

Look! Mos Def!

Date: 2006-03-15 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Rawr! Rawr! [insert tiny Rodneysaur here]

Date: 2006-03-15 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
*squeals at the rodneysaur and falls over*

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Date: 2006-03-15 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com
don't you love her? I do. I will even say so in public and shit.

Date: 2006-03-15 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
I know! How can we not when she's like this?

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Date: 2006-03-15 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com
I just love your conceptualizing. I have nothing interesting to add to it, though. But the theme songs are spot on!

Date: 2006-03-15 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
My conceptualization does tend to be rather, err, unique.

Date: 2006-03-15 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com
*mwaaaaaaaah*

Date: 2006-03-15 07:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-03-15 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com
And then a few hours later I got an e-mail that people were talking shit about a friend of mine in their locked posts, and besides just being rude and juvenile and crass, my first thought was, I've so been here!

Random question--did you think the people talking shit were crass, or did you find it crass that someone told you what was in locked posts? Did they just "hey, people are talking shit", or did they like, copy and paste? I recently had someone copy and paste a locked post, and needless to say, I was pissed, but I'm curious to hear from the other side.

Date: 2006-03-15 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I don't think this is the same thing. Are you saying you were talking badly about someone and someone with access to that locked post cut and pasted it elsewhere or that someone just took something out of a locked post and put it elsewhere?

Date: 2006-03-15 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com
why do people think locked posts are, you know, secret? There is no such thing as ethics in fandom. People *will* get their hands on that shit, and they *will* share it! I mean, get real folks.

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Date: 2006-03-15 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] literaryll.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that I have Discovery HD and if I do I will record Ari for you and mail it to you. I'll check when I get home :)

Date: 2006-03-15 10:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-03-15 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com
I love your ass for the Blur. I first heard that song in connection with one of my fandoms of old, and I've associated it with fandom (no matter which) ever since.

That and, you know, boys in eyeliner. Rawr.

Date: 2006-03-15 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Blur don't wear eyeliner! Apparently I'm the only person on earth who doesn't find men in eyeliner attractive, oh well. George doesn't wear eyeliner, I'm good.

Date: 2006-03-15 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unholyglee.livejournal.com
I meant the message of their song, not them. They'd look funny in eyeliner. I also find men not in eyeliner attractive. I just find people attractive. I'm queer like that. But George makes it all good. Let's hug it out.

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Date: 2006-03-15 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avid-slacker.livejournal.com
Apparently I'm the only person on earth who doesn't find men in eyeliner attractive, oh well. George doesn't wear eyeliner, I'm good.

Boys in makeup, boys cross-dressing, not really sexy imo. Boys being boys are hot, even the pretty ones like Tom Welling.

On a whole other subject, I heard you were getting pressure to write George/Jake. I'd just like to put it out there that if you were to do this I would be devoted for life. I haven't been so spun on a pairing since early days of Ryan/Seth.

Date: 2006-03-15 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com
I knew there was something I meant to tell you. damn. Have you seen the pics Perez had? Ari is working the facial hair something fierce.

My favorite Prince song is "Little Red Corvette". hah.

Date: 2006-03-16 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I knew there was something I meant to tell you. damn. Have you seen the pics Perez had? Ari is working the facial hair something fierce.

Huh. *goes to see Perez*

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Date: 2006-03-16 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com
You know, I'd been in fandom about four months or so when I started seeing locked, filtered posts bitching about other fans, and when I got involved in my first "wank" a few months later, it cemented my decision.

I'm a pretty direct girl. If I like someone, they know it. If I dislike someone, they know it. And the thing that really bothered me about fandom was how it was so... well, I'm not going to say anything about someone in locked post that I wouldn't say in an unlocked post. First, it's not a cool way to act. Second, dude, THE PERSON WILL FIND OUT. Because, really, there have been two different times when people have said shit about me in locked posts, and people who I talk with a lot, though not necessarily on LJ where people can see it, have sent me the contents of the posts. I never mentioned it on LJ and mostly just laughed, rolled my eyes, and said, "spineless, bitches," but it still wasn't *cool*. And third, isn't there better shit we could be doing with our time?

Dude, "We Are Family" is perfect. Fandom is a family. And sure, sometimes it's your Uncle Jesse who drinks too much, always says the wrong thing, and will offend you at least once in a three hour period, but that's still family.

Date: 2006-03-16 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
And the thing that really bothered me about fandom was how it was so...

...so like high school/secondary school? Yes, well.

Because, really, there have been two different times when people have said shit about me in locked posts, and people who I talk with a lot, though not necessarily on LJ where people can see it, have sent me the contents of the posts.

Ah, see normally people talk/attack me through my stories in open posts, and then are shocked when I find out about them. Do people think I live in an ivory tower and never read any other LJ but the ones I have listed? I don't mind if you don't like the story, I've written plenty of stories I don't like anymore, but then when I ask you why and you call me *stupid*? Uh, yeah, no. And no, it's not cool, because generally part of an adult is having tact and learning how not to act as though you're 16. Some people haven't quite grasped this concept yet.

We give them the finger. ;)

Date: 2006-03-16 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] askmehow.livejournal.com
Sister Sledge 'We Are Family'
Hee! Zahra, you mushball!

Date: 2006-03-16 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Hush. Why are you putting my business in the street?!

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