hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2006-03-15 10:09 am

Ah, fandom.

[livejournal.com profile] thecomfychair has informed me that on 1 April, Jeremy Piven Ari will be have a special on Discovery HD called Journey of a Lifetime with Ari, err, Jeremy Piven -- because after the Oscar business, Ari had to get away. Right. I digress. I don't have Discovery HD. I don't know anyone who has it, but one of you bitches must and then you can share with the class. Please?




Yesterday, the beloved [livejournal.com profile] violetsmiles had a meme asking how you'd found her LJ, what your favorite Prince song was (you can't choose just one for real), and what song made you think of fandom. The last one actually had me stymied for a bit until this morning when Damon Albarn started hollering that he was looking for Girls who want boys/ who like boys to be girls/ who do boys like they're girls/ who do girls like they're boys/ Always should be someone you really love -- and I said, oh, Blur's 'Girls & Boys' THAT'S SO FANDOM.

And then a few hours later I got an e-mail that people were talking shit about a friend of mine in their locked posts, and besides just being rude and juvenile and crass, my first thought was, I've so been here!

Sometimes people judge you without knowing a damn thing about you. Sometimes people are just that infantile and petty. Some people just have to get their hate on. And I thought of Timex Social Club's 'Rumours' -- I'll think I'll write my congressman, and tell him to pass a bill, the next time they catch somebody starting rumors---shoot to kill! -- because THAT'S SO FANDOM, TOO.

At the end of the day though, we're all in this together. Love it, hate it, want to take a torch to it and burn that branch off of the family tapestry, we do this fandom shit together. No one else understands it, and protects it the way we do, and that's what makes it so interesting. And in that instance, well, there's only one song for it: Sister Sledge 'We Are Family' -- BECAUSE THAT'S JUST FANDOM.

[identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have links, but my songs of fandom have always been ... well, Tori Amos's Waitress (boys all think she's living kindness, ask a fellow waitress, I believe in PEACE, bitch, etc) and a song by Amy Rigby that has a chorus that goes "why do I pull wings off butterflies, look for things that hurt my eyes ..." and David Baerwald's Love #29 (I trust you to be vicious, I trust you to be cruel, I trust that you'll continue to be love #29). Which is funny, because all these years, I really do love being in fandom.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You are very cute when you're riled up like this.

Look! Mos Def!

[identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I just love your conceptualizing. I have nothing interesting to add to it, though. But the theme songs are spot on!

[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*mwaaaaaaaah*

[identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And then a few hours later I got an e-mail that people were talking shit about a friend of mine in their locked posts, and besides just being rude and juvenile and crass, my first thought was, I've so been here!

Random question--did you think the people talking shit were crass, or did you find it crass that someone told you what was in locked posts? Did they just "hey, people are talking shit", or did they like, copy and paste? I recently had someone copy and paste a locked post, and needless to say, I was pissed, but I'm curious to hear from the other side.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this is the same thing. Are you saying you were talking badly about someone and someone with access to that locked post cut and pasted it elsewhere or that someone just took something out of a locked post and put it elsewhere?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Rawr! Rawr! [insert tiny Rodneysaur here]

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
My conceptualization does tend to be rather, err, unique.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*squeals at the rodneysaur and falls over*

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to read Freedom Is Just Another Word again... but I don't think the emotional strain would be good. Maybe I'll just go read the Rodneysaur again.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
George!

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because the two stories are OH SO similar!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And you all wonder why I have developed no sense of compassion -- because I never get any. :p

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
uh...it's called tough love?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
*snort*

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
don't you love her? I do. I will even say so in public and shit.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
OKAY. WTF? I mean, honestly. Never ever taunt me for popslash again!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You didn't read the story, shut up.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
why do people think locked posts are, you know, secret? There is no such thing as ethics in fandom. People *will* get their hands on that shit, and they *will* share it! I mean, get real folks.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
RODNEYSAUR? I think my point is made.

[identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone took information from a locked post, copied and pasted it in an email, and sent it to (a) person mentioned in the post. Wasn't a fandom thing, and it wasn't just random "oh, so and so is a jackass" stuff, it was a specific situation that was working my last nerve, but it also wasn't phrased any way...productive, shall we say. I'm aware (oh, am I aware!) locked posts aren't perfect, but it still surprised me and pissed me off, that someone would do that.

I suppose if (whoever it was!) someone had instead emailed the person and rather than copying and pasting, said "Hey, meara is sounding kinda pissed at you, you might want to talk to her about that", I would've been...well, still minorly peeved (cause hey, I was GOING to deal with it, just in the proper time!), but....not anywhere near as mad as I was.

[identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! How can we not when she's like this?

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
this is my personal philosophy on this sort of matter: nothing you ever type in an email or post on the internet is private in ANY WAY. The fiction that it is causes a lot of problems. Best just not to say things that you don't want others to hear or only entrust it to people you know are locked down tighter than hackthis's ability to like cats.

[identity profile] mearagrrl.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. I've made some changes in who I've got on some custom groups, because I'd rather be able to rant about shit.

I was just curious to hear if it was the same sort of situation (which it sounds like it maybe wasn't?), what [livejournal.com profile] hackthis's response to getting something like that was.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
you'd have to ask her about that one.

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