hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2006-09-12 08:32 am

Ari is not happy.

The other day I got what I originally thought was a flame, except upon a second third fifth read I realized it was just an opinion. The person liked the story, and found it well-written (go team [livejournal.com profile] hackthis!) but didn't like the gay aspect. Or didn't like the porn part.

Now considering that the disclaimer on my profile says "writer writes SLASH!" I was a little befuddled... but you know, the person thought the story was really good except for the slash part. To which I eventually just said, 'Uh... okay, opinions are like assholes. I can respect that.' And yet, all I've heard this morning is that people think there's only one asshole to go around. There is only one point of view and if you don't agree well then you are evol and should be fed for the Minotaur! For the sanitary sake of all, I hope there's truly more than one asshole opinion to go around, but one more time for the people in the back who have the craptastic acoustics:

Dissent is not disloyalty


Disagreeing with someone's views, whatever the fuck they are, does not automatically make them a bad person. We can all wish it did, but it doesn't. Dissent doesn't make you a good person either. Slinging hash and saying that someone is a horrible no-good very bad person behind locked posts, because you're not going to step up and say it to their faces? Weak. So weak.

What really tears it though, is that it's really just one or two people that piss in the pool* and then everybody has to get out and wash off, and parents are upset and threatening litigation, and you know, that's just not the spirit we came here in. I thought the whole point of this social experiment called fandom was to bring the people who disagree and the people who agree and the people who don't give a fuck (normally, that would be me) together, so we can all hug it out and talk about the porn and give ponies and have a good time.

Can't we just kick it old skool, or what?


*If you want someone to piss on you, I have a friend that knows this ace dominatrix who can do it for a very reasonable price.


+ I dun forgot, I posted music the other day for the September Frankenstein Mix, in case anybody's feeling the need for some tunes.

++ I found this posting by [livejournal.com profile] amezri on fandom and forums and acting like you have brain which I enjoyed reading. *gacked from [livejournal.com profile] voleuse

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-09-16 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
People like ze are the opposite to slash fans who love any slash work just because it is ... well, slash.

I'm going to have to very much disagree with this statement. I think you're not giving enough credit to the readers or the writers here. I'm sure there are plenty of people who love slash because it's slash, but that's certainly not the only enjoyment. I can only speak for myself here, but the majority of my enjoyment with fan fiction is that the authors generally seem to like the characters and want them to be happy and well fleshed out. I could've just as easily written a story with no sex, but I didn't because I wanted it there. I don't think it lessens the story in any way, if you do that's your opinion, but I don't have to subscribe to it.

Slash is written primarily for other slash fans. If other people like it, I'm thrilled, as I'm sure other writers are as well, but I'm not going to look at something I've written and say, "Oh, well I better change it to appeal to more people just because." I do this out of love, not for profit or mass market. I'm not going to change what I love, just to make someone else feel better about it.
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[identity profile] jerico-cacaw.livejournal.com 2006-09-17 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
First, sorry because I'm replying two days late. Second, I'll reply both your comments here, okay?

I apologize if my words seemed to imply I believed one fan (reviewer, reader) counts more/less than another. To me, they are all at the same level and place: in my secret, golden shrine ;9. BUT, and this is my personal opinion, their reviews are different to me. Helpful and detailed reviews are the ones I cherish the most; even if I admit that when I open my email account and there is a new message in my review's folder, the warm feeling is always the same.

I also apologize about the credit thing you pointed. I've read crap just because it is from an specific fandom, pairing or writer, and I certainly DO NOT believe that every slash reader has only one thing in mind. I think another person earlier stated that the slash genre has some of the best writers, something I agree with. It is not a wonder, then, that many people enjoys reading their stories.

Now, the thing about slash being primary written for slash fans? I liked that you used 'primarily' and not 'only'. Politics, science, scifi, slash, chick flicks; everybody should be allowed to, now and then, try things they usually do not. And no, no, no, a fiction writer who changes his/her story with the only purpose of pleasing people and getting more readers is in risk of corrupting his/her art (work?).

But now you know that in the future you can try a different genre, even if you chose not to.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2006-09-18 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
But now you know that in the future you can try a different genre, even if you chose not to.

I've always known I can, that was never an issue, I (like a lot of writers I know) just choose not to because this is the medium I prefer.