hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2007-01-04 09:02 am

Heroes, The O.C & FNL

1) I wrote Peter/Nathan yesterday. Again. I am clearly hooked. [livejournal.com profile] scribblinlenore I told you it wouldn't take long. Hate the Sin, Not the Sinner. ETA: I also had some thinky Nathan & Peter analysis for episode something or other. The one with the the Sunday brunch.

So I was just watching (and re-watching, and watching again) the scenes with Nathan and Peter and holy COW, their dynamic is off the charts. I kept rewatching the scene where Peter comes for Sunday brunch, and they just keep pushing and pushing each other, hands on shoulders in turn, trying to hold the other down and control them, physically as well as figuratively. It's fucking AWESOME. And then when they're around the table and Peter's covering for why Nathan was in Vegas, he just -- Peter is SO Nathan's little brother, because Nathan will sell you anything, he'll lie through his teeth, but he'll do it with charm and you'll probably feel a little like you got conned. Peter's appears so sincere and honest though that when he's lying to you, you can't tell. He's just that good. You know what he's saying doesn't sound right, but because he's *Peter* you choose to buy it. That's SKILLS. And then later on when Nathan comes by to tell Peter he couldn't get the painting, dude, you couldn't have just called? Riiiiiiiiiight. They just -- they have to be around each other all the time. It didn't really help that Peter was wandering around in a threadbare undershirt. I am not a Milo fan, but that's a lot of hotassery, just saying.


2) R.I.P. The O.C. (2003-2007). I am actually somewhat dismayed to see you go. You gave me an awesome first season (except for that last couple of episodes) and you inspired Telegraph Avenue. For that I am exceptionally grateful. I didn't miss you while we were apart, because I was too bitter about your fuckwittery, but lately you've proven to me you're trying and for that I'm sad to see you depart.

3) Moving onward! FNL was on last night, but because I had a gig I only saw like ten minutes, and most of that was combined snippets, but I plan to see the whole thing this evening so do not be spoiling me. There are a few things I'd like to say about what little I did see

a) Are the writers fans of My So-Called Life, because all I could think when Mrs. Coach paired up Landry and Tim was Jordan Catalano and Brian Krakow. I think I may have a kink here. Do not tell me if they go bust before the end of the episode.

b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend? When he did that little spin in the music store I about died.


c) WHY DID YOU TAKE HER BACK?! *stomps off*

d) I didn't see most of this plot arc, but I came running in room just as Matt was running down the steps and calling his daddy. I almost plotzed. Oh, Matt. Baby. I know that didn't end well, I can FEEL it. His dad was too distracted at the dinner table. Just, you know, don't tell me what actually happened.

e) I've seen that quad porn tape in my Human Sexuality class. Yis.

[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend? When he did that little spin in the music store I about died.

You'll totally have to fight me for him. The bitchier & pissier he gets, the more I love him. *draws hearts forever*

Now watch the rest of the episode, so we can discuss his awesomeness and MATT in depth.

[identity profile] rachel-wilder.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just jealous because you still have the promise of seeing the whole episode. I can only sit here basking in the glow of what I consider one of the best eps yet and wait for next week.

[identity profile] boniblithe.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Jason Street is a Vietnam War away from being Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump or whatever Tom Cruise's name was in Born on the 4th.

[identity profile] acidquill.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
1 & 3 - I really need to watch these now. Because *is clueless* does not match my handbag ;)

2 - Well. Damn. Just when I was giving it another go. It was awkward at the start, but I was being hopeful. I mean, Mini Cooper (& how much do I love you for that, heh) was shaping up pretty nicely and I could even get used to the whole Taylor thing.

[identity profile] miss-saigon.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Jason Katims producer and writer for FNL = Jason Katims producer and writer for My So called life. Or were you being sarcastic and I am dumb and didn't catch that? Either way yes Tim/Landry is awesome and Jason Street is awesome and my fangirlyness about Matt in last night's episode can not be textually rendered.

[identity profile] miss-saigon.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny isn't it? I've actually seen a few people comparing Tim to Jordan, which is what brought the connection to my attention. Personally I just hope Katims refrains from following any of the characterizations/plots from his other big show, Roswell.

[identity profile] smonsterbite.livejournal.com 2007-01-04 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
2) I share your feelings on The OC. Sad to see it go despite my extreme frustration with the wasted seasons. Plus, it got me reading fic in general and your fic in particular, so a big yay on that.

3) a) Others have beat me to the Katims reveal. But I was watching with [livejournal.com profile] luluminion last night and she totally yelled out "Jordan Catalano can't read!" Heh.

b) Yes on the spin. Yes on the I NEED MY NIRVANA RIGHT NOW GODDAMMIT.

c) I 'm neutral on this. I think it will crash and burn again eventually, but it makes sense within the show.

d) MATT! I shall not spoil you, I shall only reiterate my flaily love for that character.

e) Of *course* it's a real tape.

[identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I rewatched the run of Heroes to date over the holiday break and my god. Yeah. The Petrelli brothers really *are* all over each other. And you're so right about the dynamic - Peter can say things and be totally sincere (something to do with his decision to go into nursing?), while Nathan reminds me of a snake oil salesman. And I find Peter really, really hot. Along with Mohinder and Isaac and Niki and her husband (DL? Is he DL?). It's a cast of hotness, yay.

[identity profile] avid-slacker.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
As you know I was really less than impressed by the early eps of FNL.

I was worried it was going to be a mediocre cliche of what it could've been, but as the season has gone on it's become progressively better, to the point where now it has completely exceeded my expectations. The characters are nuanced and complex, and I love that the writers keep rearranging the cast pairings so that we get to see all new dynamics and sides to their personalities.

I don't love Tim/Landry as a couple, but I loved that putting them together allowed us to see Landry's backbone and Tim's inherent kindness.

[identity profile] veradeath.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
1) This? because Nathan will sell you anything, he'll lie through his teeth, but he'll do it with charm and you'll probably feel a little like you got conned. Peter's appears so sincere and honest though that when he's lying to you, you can't tell. He's just that good. You know what he's saying doesn't sound right, but because he's *Peter* you choose to buy it. That's SKILLS.

Is the Winchester brothers to a T. Dean is so Nathan and Sam is so Peter in this respect.

With Dean, you feel like you're being conned, and with Sam, he's so innocent looking and sincere that you don't realize you're getting steamrolled.

It's awesome.

3) I want Tim/Landry. So very badly.

Also, the more bitchface Jason gets, the more I love him.

[identity profile] serrico.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
re: The Flying Petrellis: they like to grope. And what I love *most* about this is that is *obviously* an Acting Choice, because Profit (and whoever Pasdar played on Mysterious Ways)? Not into touching. Jess (and whoever Ventimiglia played on American Dreams)? Also not into touching. Nathan and Peter? REALLY REALLY INTO TOUCHING.

The actors love us, is what I'm saying.

re: quad porn: little Lyla Garrity's got some freaky underneath her Lanalike exterior. As did Lana, herself. There's just something about those sugar 'n' spice cheerleaders, apparently.

Have you seen the rest of the episode yet? Have you, have you, huh?? 'Cause it was *yet another* fantastic one. I am constantly amazed by the consistent level of quality FNL keeps going.

[identity profile] askmehow.livejournal.com 2007-01-05 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend?
Have you finished the episode yet? We must discuss the sheer hotassery that is Jason in the shower. Or Jason working out, all sweaty and determined. Or, indeed, Jason with a gleam in his eye, joking about Clay Aiken. Anything to take our minds off the fact that JasonandLyla: snoozefest2006 continues on into 2007. *siiiigh*

On the other hand, there's this: "Really, you think that I should be able to find connections between my life and the lives of these two men, completely dependent on one another for support, and who plan on going off and living on a ranch together in their old age? 'Cause I'm not seeing it." Awesome.

In conclusion: The Four Seasons was playing on the dirty, dirty quad porn? Totally for win.