Heroes, The O.C & FNL

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1) I wrote Peter/Nathan yesterday. Again. I am clearly hooked. scribblinlenore I told you it wouldn't take long. Hate the Sin, Not the Sinner. ETA: I also had some thinky Nathan & Peter analysis for episode something or other. The one with the the Sunday brunch.

So I was just watching (and re-watching, and watching again) the scenes with Nathan and Peter and holy COW, their dynamic is off the charts. I kept rewatching the scene where Peter comes for Sunday brunch, and they just keep pushing and pushing each other, hands on shoulders in turn, trying to hold the other down and control them, physically as well as figuratively. It's fucking AWESOME. And then when they're around the table and Peter's covering for why Nathan was in Vegas, he just -- Peter is SO Nathan's little brother, because Nathan will sell you anything, he'll lie through his teeth, but he'll do it with charm and you'll probably feel a little like you got conned. Peter's appears so sincere and honest though that when he's lying to you, you can't tell. He's just that good. You know what he's saying doesn't sound right, but because he's *Peter* you choose to buy it. That's SKILLS. And then later on when Nathan comes by to tell Peter he couldn't get the painting, dude, you couldn't have just called? Riiiiiiiiiight. They just -- they have to be around each other all the time. It didn't really help that Peter was wandering around in a threadbare undershirt. I am not a Milo fan, but that's a lot of hotassery, just saying.


2) R.I.P. The O.C. (2003-2007). I am actually somewhat dismayed to see you go. You gave me an awesome first season (except for that last couple of episodes) and you inspired Telegraph Avenue. For that I am exceptionally grateful. I didn't miss you while we were apart, because I was too bitter about your fuckwittery, but lately you've proven to me you're trying and for that I'm sad to see you depart.

3) Moving onward! FNL was on last night, but because I had a gig I only saw like ten minutes, and most of that was combined snippets, but I plan to see the whole thing this evening so do not be spoiling me. There are a few things I'd like to say about what little I did see

a) Are the writers fans of My So-Called Life, because all I could think when Mrs. Coach paired up Landry and Tim was Jordan Catalano and Brian Krakow. I think I may have a kink here. Do not tell me if they go bust before the end of the episode.

b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend? When he did that little spin in the music store I about died.


c) WHY DID YOU TAKE HER BACK?! *stomps off*

d) I didn't see most of this plot arc, but I came running in room just as Matt was running down the steps and calling his daddy. I almost plotzed. Oh, Matt. Baby. I know that didn't end well, I can FEEL it. His dad was too distracted at the dinner table. Just, you know, don't tell me what actually happened.

e) I've seen that quad porn tape in my Human Sexuality class. Yis.

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[azewewish.livejournal.com]

b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend? When he did that little spin in the music store I about died.

You'll totally have to fight me for him. The bitchier & pissier he gets, the more I love him. *draws hearts forever*

Now watch the rest of the episode, so we can discuss his awesomeness and MATT in depth.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I am so excited to see it, seriously. This is it. I don't watch a lot of TV, but every now and then there's that one show that everything else has to stop for. This is that one show for me. Normally I can't even be bothered to tape things when I miss them. Also, Jason's pissiness is just HAWT. I saw his workout routine this morning when I was supposed to be leaving for work, and Jason in the shower made me stop dead in my tracks. That's just hotassery right there.

[azewewish.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I pretty much stay away from most shows, but I loved the movie, so I decided to give FNL a shot. I'm SO glad I did.

[rachel-wilder.livejournal.com]

I'm just jealous because you still have the promise of seeing the whole episode. I can only sit here basking in the glow of what I consider one of the best eps yet and wait for next week.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I am rubbing my hands together gleefully, make no mistake on that score.

[boniblithe.livejournal.com]

Jason Street is a Vietnam War away from being Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump or whatever Tom Cruise's name was in Born on the 4th.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

*heads desk*

[acidquill.livejournal.com]

1 & 3 - I really need to watch these now. Because *is clueless* does not match my handbag ;)

2 - Well. Damn. Just when I was giving it another go. It was awkward at the start, but I was being hopeful. I mean, Mini Cooper (& how much do I love you for that, heh) was shaping up pretty nicely and I could even get used to the whole Taylor thing.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I love FNL with the passion of a thousand lustful thoughts, what can I say? The cast is dead hot, the writing is superb, and also, you know, the actors can actually act. You don't get a lot of that these days. As for Heroes, well, I watch Heroes for the Petrellis everything else is just fast-forward material. Except for Hiro, he's damn awesome, too.

Re: The O.C. -- *shakes head* Such squandered potential.

[miss-saigon.livejournal.com]

Jason Katims producer and writer for FNL = Jason Katims producer and writer for My So called life. Or were you being sarcastic and I am dumb and didn't catch that? Either way yes Tim/Landry is awesome and Jason Street is awesome and my fangirlyness about Matt in last night's episode can not be textually rendered.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Jason Katims producer and writer for FNL = Jason Katims producer and writer for My So called life. Or were you being sarcastic and I am dumb and didn't catch that?

Wait, you're SERIOUS?! I was just talking bullshit, because of how the dynamic just smacked me around with the jock and the geek and it was so reminescent, and the writing so awesome. Oh, well, now that explains a lot. *goes to find Landry & Riggins icon*

[miss-saigon.livejournal.com]

It's funny isn't it? I've actually seen a few people comparing Tim to Jordan, which is what brought the connection to my attention. Personally I just hope Katims refrains from following any of the characterizations/plots from his other big show, Roswell.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

*sputters a lot* I mean I thought -- with the hair -- but not seriously. I mean you can't think every sulky boy with long hair is Jordan Catalano, but apparently you can! You've totally made my DAY!

[smonsterbite.livejournal.com]

2) I share your feelings on The OC. Sad to see it go despite my extreme frustration with the wasted seasons. Plus, it got me reading fic in general and your fic in particular, so a big yay on that.

3) a) Others have beat me to the Katims reveal. But I was watching with luluminion last night and she totally yelled out "Jordan Catalano can't read!" Heh.

b) Yes on the spin. Yes on the I NEED MY NIRVANA RIGHT NOW GODDAMMIT.

c) I 'm neutral on this. I think it will crash and burn again eventually, but it makes sense within the show.

d) MATT! I shall not spoil you, I shall only reiterate my flaily love for that character.

e) Of *course* it's a real tape.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I share your feelings on The OC. Sad to see it go despite my extreme frustration with the wasted seasons. Plus, it got me reading fic in general and your fic in particular, so a big yay on that.

Aww. See, something good did come from Josh's stupidity and Mischa's lack of talent!

Others have beat me to the Katims reveal. But I was watching with luluminion last night and she totally yelled out "Jordan Catalano can't read!" Heh.

a) I thought that too for a moment and then I was all, dude, this isn't MSCL, but it is! Kinda. And now I can go home and see if I was right. *is v excited*

b) With the spin and the Nirvana temper tantrum I was like '...!!!!O_O' Yeah, that's about it.

e) I was just like, wait. What? No way! Yes way!

[thepouncer.livejournal.com]

I rewatched the run of Heroes to date over the holiday break and my god. Yeah. The Petrelli brothers really *are* all over each other. And you're so right about the dynamic - Peter can say things and be totally sincere (something to do with his decision to go into nursing?), while Nathan reminds me of a snake oil salesman. And I find Peter really, really hot. Along with Mohinder and Isaac and Niki and her husband (DL? Is he DL?). It's a cast of hotness, yay.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

The Petrelli brothers really *are* all over each other.

I have never seen anyone touch that much in my life, and I'm not just saying that because I am totally non-touchy and still have dirtywrongbad feelings about the two of them together. Regardless of the hotassery or the chemistry, neither one would be nearly as effective alone. Nathan would be too hard, and Peter would seem too soft, each one needs the other to provide some balance. To pull them back to the proverbial middle. God, now I really wish they HAD made them twins

[avid-slacker.livejournal.com]

As you know I was really less than impressed by the early eps of FNL.

I was worried it was going to be a mediocre cliche of what it could've been, but as the season has gone on it's become progressively better, to the point where now it has completely exceeded my expectations. The characters are nuanced and complex, and I love that the writers keep rearranging the cast pairings so that we get to see all new dynamics and sides to their personalities.

I don't love Tim/Landry as a couple, but I loved that putting them together allowed us to see Landry's backbone and Tim's inherent kindness.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Oh, no, not Tim & Landry as a couple, but as a sort of snarky set of bookends. They're just so terribly Frick & Frack about it all, I love that Landry calls Tim on his bullshit. LOVE. IT. As for the pilot and the first few episodes I was underwhelmed until I got further along in the season. At first I just didn't get it. I felt like I couldn't see where they were headed with it, now that we're halfway through I can see all the seeds they've planted and it's just like 'wow.' If you get a chance, after you've seen all the episode, I highly recommend going back through the first three, they make a much bigger impact now. Especially the pilot.

[veradeath.livejournal.com]

1) This? because Nathan will sell you anything, he'll lie through his teeth, but he'll do it with charm and you'll probably feel a little like you got conned. Peter's appears so sincere and honest though that when he's lying to you, you can't tell. He's just that good. You know what he's saying doesn't sound right, but because he's *Peter* you choose to buy it. That's SKILLS.

Is the Winchester brothers to a T. Dean is so Nathan and Sam is so Peter in this respect.

With Dean, you feel like you're being conned, and with Sam, he's so innocent looking and sincere that you don't realize you're getting steamrolled.

It's awesome.

3) I want Tim/Landry. So very badly.

Also, the more bitchface Jason gets, the more I love him.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Please do not EVER mention Supernatural in my LJ. Okay? It makes me want to garrote someone. *smiles broadly* Moving along! Tim & Landry are AWESOME.

[serrico.livejournal.com]

re: The Flying Petrellis: they like to grope. And what I love *most* about this is that is *obviously* an Acting Choice, because Profit (and whoever Pasdar played on Mysterious Ways)? Not into touching. Jess (and whoever Ventimiglia played on American Dreams)? Also not into touching. Nathan and Peter? REALLY REALLY INTO TOUCHING.

The actors love us, is what I'm saying.

re: quad porn: little Lyla Garrity's got some freaky underneath her Lanalike exterior. As did Lana, herself. There's just something about those sugar 'n' spice cheerleaders, apparently.

Have you seen the rest of the episode yet? Have you, have you, huh?? 'Cause it was *yet another* fantastic one. I am constantly amazed by the consistent level of quality FNL keeps going.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

re: The Flying Petrellis: they like to grope. And what I love *most* about this is that is *obviously* an Acting Choice, because Profit (and whoever Pasdar played on Mysterious Ways)? Not into touching. Jess (and whoever Ventimiglia played on American Dreams)? Also not into touching. Nathan and Peter? REALLY REALLY INTO TOUCHING.

The actors love us, is what I'm saying.

I was babbling about this to someone the other day! I was like do you really think I would be entertaining, err, writing Nathan/Peter if they weren't up in each other's faces and touching each other ALLLLLLL the time? I mean we react to the chemistry on screen, just saying.

As for Lana v Lyla, I can see where you're coming from, but there's a part of me that actually *likes* Lyla and I never liked Lana. Of course FNL is the shit, so that might have something to do with it, too.

[askmehow.livejournal.com]

b) Jason Street, will you be my pissy Nirvana-loving fictional boyfriend?
Have you finished the episode yet? We must discuss the sheer hotassery that is Jason in the shower. Or Jason working out, all sweaty and determined. Or, indeed, Jason with a gleam in his eye, joking about Clay Aiken. Anything to take our minds off the fact that JasonandLyla: snoozefest2006 continues on into 2007. *siiiigh*

On the other hand, there's this: "Really, you think that I should be able to find connections between my life and the lives of these two men, completely dependent on one another for support, and who plan on going off and living on a ranch together in their old age? 'Cause I'm not seeing it." Awesome.

In conclusion: The Four Seasons was playing on the dirty, dirty quad porn? Totally for win.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I have a, um, confession to make. Okay, the Lyla/Jason? Starting to break me down, not in the writing it way, but just, dude, she seems seriously contrite and he's sure as hell making her work for it, which that 'if you wanna get laid go see Riggins' thing? More importantly though, that scene with him in the shower? YEEEEEEEEEEAHBOYEEEEEEEEEE! And the Clay Aiken thing just had me rolling. Oh, god, FNL how are you so awesome?

On the other hand, there's this: "Really, you think that I should be able to find connections between my life and the lives of these two men, completely dependent on one another for support, and who plan on going off and living on a ranch together in their old age? 'Cause I'm not seeing it." Awesome.

How Brokeback Mountain of them! *snicker*

[askmehow.livejournal.com]

Okay, the Lyla/Jason? Starting to break me down, not in the writing it way, but just, dude, she seems seriously contrite and he's sure as hell making her work for it, which that 'if you wanna get laid go see Riggins' thing?
See, I get the whole pining, labours-of-Hercules-type-tests-to-regain-the-trust thing; it can be a lot of fun to read in fic and watch. Thing is, the actress is just not up to it: I don't want to bash Minka Kelly, but she's simply too wooden for the contrition to show up as anything but pettishness, and it's bleeding into my reading of the pair of them as bland. Now Tim and Tyra, with far more verbal economy and and much less screentime, just crackle together, 'cause the actors have chemistry.

More importantly though, that scene with him in the shower?
Not even picspam could cover the AWESOME of it all. And the whole Clay Aiken thing is the one scene where I could actually believe that Jay and Lyla were actually a longstanding couple, with little in-jokes and couple-shorthand. It was seriously cute.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

See, I used to watch Smallville, so compared to Kristen Kruek, Minka is friggin Meryl Streep. I can see how she can be a little stilted, but I feel like she's trying, and hell, I highly doubt she thought she'd end up on a show where everybody can act, you know?

[askmehow.livejournal.com]

This is deeply, deeply true. Okay, point.