Pimp, babble, rec, NATHAN!

[hackthis_archive]

I thought this week would be better than last week, but I was fucking wrong wasn't I? *sigh* Happy thoughts... happy thoughts...

I saw Howl's Moving Castle recently, twice, because well, shit, was that a goddamn awesome movie or what? I also saw Sky High, which was cute, in an American Harry Potter sort of way, but is there fic for Howl or no? Also, if Children of Men doesn't leave you poleaxed in your seat, man...

Also, today is NATHAN DAY! Okay, every day is Nathan Day 'round these parts, but since it's Monday it's doubly Nathan day. All I want to do is talk about the awesome Petrelli-centric writing being done by scribblinlenore and sparky77 (or I would be if the latter would write some more damnit (*smacks with anvil*). There was some sort of mass proliferation this past weekend though and I highly recommend When He Sings by mandysbitch (incest) and Peter Pan (gen, Nathan & Peter) by linaerys which are both absolutely CRACKING stuff. Bless you both many times over.

Their writing spawned some random thinky thoughts about Nathan, which I'm sure will come out in my writing soonish (what you thought I was just going to tell you? HA!) But I will say that upon second viewing of Godsend I noticed two itty bitty things that, you know, might be worth taking notice of.

a) Nathan says he loves Peter not once, but TWICE. Most of us were so brain-fried by the kiss and the 'I love you, man', that I think we missed when Simone's sitting at Peter's bedside and Nathan says it then. He's getting all excitable about the fucking painting and why did she tell him (bitch!slap), and then he says something like 'I love him and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit around and watch him die!" Everyone who said Nathan didn't love Peter can suck it. TWICE.

b) When Nathan and Hiro are having their BFF forever moment, what does Nathan say he wants to do? He says he wants to HELP. When has Nathan ever said he wants to help anybody ever? Never. Isn't that what he and Peter are always fighting about in the first place? Nathan's refusal to help even though he could set a world record for saving cats from trees? And yet, ultimately who makes Nathan want to do said helping? Peter. Not through the continued haranguing, which
obviously Nathan's built up an immunity to after all this time (which I hate to say, has some swiss cheese sized holes), but because Nathan is fucking desperate and he wants to be able to feel like he's actively doing something to bring Peter back to him.

Apart from the massive BroYay of that statement (Love you, Tim!) you cannot deny that Nathan loves Peter dearly and will do anything that might help him. He may not scream it from the rooftops, but he is truly devoted to Peter. In fact he's more devoted to Peter than he is to his mother or his wife or anybody else. Everybody else Nathan loves with qualifications (He loves his mom, because she's a nutter and his mom; he loves Heidi because she's his wife and the mother of his children, and because, hello fucking guilt!)

Peter is Nathan's lodestar.

For all the idolizing of Nathan that Peter does, Peter is truly Nathan's man on the pedestal. He is the only untainted and pure thing Nathan has. Every time Nathan tells Peter 'no' he's trying to keep him safe, and every time he gives in, he's trying to act at his buffer. That's love, y'all. More than any words, or questionable touch, it's all in the actions and Nathan is a man of action.

Yes, you know I'm gonna write a story about that.

Comments

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

*pets*

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Indeed!

[ignited.livejournal.com]

I have nothing constructive to add other than thanks for pointing out the commentary links a while back -- I love how full of info and glee the site for Heroes is; definitely helped refill my adoration meter (not that it was ever going down really!) in preparation for watching the show last week.

Also, people saying that Nathan doesn't love Peter...doesn't make any sense to me. But then, so far Heroes has been that shiny, wonderful show with the fucked up characters that I love but haven't really gotten involved in fandom to hear about discussion so... Yeah. I love Nathan, and your analysis of the situation.

In conclusion, YAY HOWL! (What? I've seen that movie about four or five times in the past two weeks; it's so good, and Christian Bale certainly adds to the awesomeness.)

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

Ow! And I know, I fail. My only excuse is that I'm at my friend's house right now and I've been informed that I'm not allowed to write incest on her computer. Maybe I'll rebel. Down with evil Petrellicest oppressors!

And you're being all smart and shit. My brain is still not functioning from last week.

[dorrie6.livejournal.com]

I think you're right. I think their mom has it wrong. I think Nathan loves Peter much more than she knows.

[heidi8.livejournal.com]

Irritating is meh.
Btw, have you seen the Nathan Petrelli For Congress "ad" on the videos section of the NBC site?

[teenygozer.livejournal.com]

I actually spent most of last week desperately begging people to watch the commentary or at the very least read ella_ventic's transcripts.

Oh... yeah... that *was* you, wasn't it. ::blushes:: I have such a bad memory for names. OTOH, this gives me the opportunity to thank you for pointing me in that direction. I love those guys so very much, it was adorable how they love tooting all their co-stars' horns -- even the kid who plays Zack gets a mention for being a Renaissance man and directing a film.

[aliaspiral.livejournal.com]

yuletide has some really great fics for Howl, but they are all bookverse. i havent found any movieverse fic, yet, but I keep looking.

and you should pick up the book, if you get a chance. ive loved Diane Wynne Jones since I was teeny, and its one of my favorites.

[oxoniensis.livejournal.com]

I have balloons! Thank you! :-D

[scribblinlenore.livejournal.com]

Pacts are very inspiring! I made story notes on the way to work. :)

[avaserenity.livejournal.com]

I agree with what you said about Peter being the purest and untainted thing in Nathan's life and that is why he tries to protect Peter from everything. Peter is the only that has managed to stay unmarred by all the shit happening in Nathan's world.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I have a photograph. (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/rout345/tn0067mx.jpg) I have no idea what I'm going to do with it though. I think the car was graduation bribery from Nathan.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Down with oppression! Just saying.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I think she's in denial. Although if my children were that entwined I might been some denial too.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Need not been. *shakes head*

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Also, people saying that Nathan doesn't love Peter...doesn't make any sense to me. But then, so far Heroes has been that shiny, wonderful show with the fucked up characters that I love but haven't really gotten involved in fandom to hear about discussion so... Yeah. I love Nathan, and your analysis of the situation.

Yeah, there was a lot of anti-Nathan sentiment when I first started poking around and wanting to write him. It made me irritable, the sentiment may have died off some, but I'm still irritable that it was there in the first place. Of course I don't believe in vast declarations and sappiness it makes me break out in hives.

[dorrie6.livejournal.com]

I figured that one out. :)

[dorrie6.livejournal.com]

You know, that's a very good point.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

As for the campaign sacrifice, my immediate thought is that it's a sort of insurance policy Nathan's taken out on Peter's behalf. As much as Nathan might want Peter on a leash (blink) it's not going to happen, and if Nathan tells other people that Peter's 'off' then they'll keep a lot closer eye on him and perhaps be better able to keep Peter from doing something stupid. If nothing else Nathan just rounded up a couple hundred thousand spies to keep an eye on Peter. What better way to keep someone in check?

I am thinking about this, because I'm in the middle of trying to deconstruct a rather large story idea that won't fucking go away and I realized that it's also possible that the inverse is true: the Nathan's told everyone Peter's a nutjob so that if Peter's caught doing something totally off the mark, then everyone will just excuse it because 'hey, he's crazy.'

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the recommendation!

[jakrar.livejournal.com]

I would LOVE to see you write a story about Nathan's love for Peter! *squees* Or, you know, multiple stories. Or a long series.... :)

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

LOL. Because I haven't written any before or anything, right? :)

[jakrar.livejournal.com]

With Petrellicest, more is always better. *nods*

[asha-dreamweave.livejournal.com]

OMG! SO true. It's all about protecting the family for the Luthors and apparently the Petrellis, and that's where the line's drawn isn't? Nathan will go to extraordinary lengths for Peter and to some extent, their mom, whereas you get the feeling that it's mostly guilt that he feels around Heidi and the children have only made cameos. There's also the niggling feeling that Nathan entered politics because his dad died and he felt it was his responsibility or he wanted to improve things for his family. At the very least, he probably gave up on being a DA and prosecuting Linderman cos he hurt Heidi and probably wouldn't hesitate to hurt someone else in his family, which was unacceptable.

You get the feeling that, when it comes down to it, Peter is HIS little brother and therefore must be protected even from himself (and from damaging Nathan's campaign). Seriously though, I find the brothers' relationship to be fascinating and what you just vocalised was just SO PERFECT and fitting. :)

[scribblinlenore.livejournal.com]

Oh my God! I almost forgot to reply to this, which would just be so WRONG. Because...that picture IS porn, all by itself. I can't wait for the story it inspires!!!!!!!!