hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2008-10-05 07:24 pm

A $0.50 rant on Racism in True Blood, Chocolate News and the US Presidential Campaign

You know how you have shit building up and then you hit that tipping point and you're like, fine, I see I'm going to have to talk about this or I will be up all night yelling and scaring the neighbors.



When True Blood first premiered however many weeks ago, I had no real interest in it as I'm not into the whole vampire thing, the Mary Sue thing or pretty much anything about that entire concept. I watched it for two wholly shallow reasons 1) it's on HBO and 2) it will eventually have Alexander Skarsgard from Generation Kill. And because I was being shallow about it, I didn't expect it to be good, but I certainly didn't expect to have the only black female on the show in the first fifteen minutes be depicted as stroppy, lazy, poor and on the whole the most stereotypical racist depiction of an angry black female on TV that I've seen in a long fucking time. And that just seemed to be her entire purpose, to be angry and mouthy and pine after the most stupid, greasy, useless piece of human waste I have seen in a long fucking time. Seriously. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

If the only depiction of you on a show was like that, you'd be fucking angry too. But you know, maybe this doesn't offend you. Maybe you think, [livejournal.com profile] hackthis, you really should get over it. But allow me to explain something to you: there are only X number of People of Color (POC) on TV at any given time. Certainly no more than 10% of the roles cast are going to someone who is non-white. There are whole series set in urban centers that NEVER have anyone darker than a spray-on tan on them. So, when you are a person of color, every last role, every last character is important, because to somebody out there in the viewing world it is going to represent you.

A non-POC can turn on the TV and with a little channel surfing, find someone like them: a geek, a nerd, a jock, somebody who's overweight or gangly or Juno or Buffy the Vampire Slayer or someone who's blond or brunette or bald or what the fuck ever. POCs don't get that. On any show that has a minority, there is generally only one. ONE. The strong black guy that has no brain, the Hispanic woman that's all sex, the Asian guy that's all brain, the black woman that's nothing but angry.

And you know what makes POCs angry? Getting stereotyped like that. Turning on a TV and having somebody else perpetuate a myth that all black women are angry and lazy and come from broken homes and pine over worthless men and have a cousin who sells drugs is just -- I mean really? Why not just say that we're all video hoes, worth nothing more than bling and spandex. Or welfare queens, even though the majority of people on welfare are not POCs.

And frankly, I don't care if this isn't how it goes in the books, this is what's on the TV and to me it's shameful and lazy and racist. But that's why people go with stereotypes, because it's so much easier to use them than to come up with something new. After all, how shocking would it be if Tara actually had a real job and a stable family and sex appeal of her own and she didn't need Sookie or run after Jason's nasty ass? Yes, clearly to depict a black woman like that would be shocking. Can't have that.

So, you know, if you like True Blood, that's fine, but don't tell me how they really don't mean it like that, because you damn well better believe that's what they're showing.

And if you think I'm overreacting or I just don't get it, name the last time you saw a positive depiction of a black woman on TV on a show that is not Grey's Anatomy. And by positive I mean someone who is allowed to be intelligent, and have a life and not be comedic relief. Now do the same thing with a Hispanic woman, a black man and an Asian man. Go on. I'll wait.

Which brings me to the new Comedy Central show, Chocolate News.

Jewish people have Jon Stewart.

Catholic people get Stephen Colbert.

Black people HAD Dave, but Dave got tired working for the man, and Comedy Central replaces him with David Alan Grier, who's doing a show perpetuating every fucking stereotype possible about black people being lazy, materialistic, inarticulate and straight up ghetto?

Fuck you, Comedy Central.

And while we're on the subject of people needing to get run over by a bus... I am a firm believer that you should be positive. That you get out of this world what you put into it, but let me tell you right now that if I ever come across Sarah Palin, she and I are going to have words. Major fucking words that will probably end with a Ari-worthy bitchslap. Not about rape kits and shooting wolves from planes. Not even about abstinence only lessons in schooling and naming just ONE Supreme Court case besides Roe v Wade (not that I was expecting her to name Dred Scott or Brown v The BoE), but because she has the audacity to go out on the road and tell people that Barack Hussein Obama isn't "an American like you and me."

And why is that? because I'm pretty sure he has a US passport. You know, that thing you finally procured in 2006, Mrs. Palin.

Now, is it because his name isn't Joe fucking Six Pack? Is it because he went to Harvard? Is it because he was a Community Organizer?

No. It's not that.

It's because his mom is from Kansas and his dad is from Kenya. It's because when she's saying, he's not like 'us,' what Mrs. MY PROFESSIONAL SNOW MOBILING HUSBAND AND I PULLED IN ONE MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR is saying that Barack Obama is black, and black is scary. Black is different. Well, except for those people who are already 'different' but they're not like Palin anyway.

And sure the mavericks (even though a maverick by definition is singular, meaning one person doing it on their own) are going to bring change, but everybody knows the black man is scary. He's always been scary. He might steal your wallet. He might steal your car. The black guy, he might become president and enslave all the white people. And that's just way too much change.

These are trufax.

Jon Stewart even asked Barack if that was going to happen.

Except when Jon asked this question, he was joking. What Sarah Palin is doing is alluding to the fact that it might really happen.

Wow. That takes balls.

But, you know, if you're really afraid. If you really want to find the terrorists plaguing the United States right now, and you want to know why you're afraid at night and think about buying that gas mask from the Army Surplus, then look no further than John McCain's running mate. And then you can look at John McCain himself.

And if, when you go into that voting booth on November 4th, you want to vote for real fucking change and not the same old racist, good-old boy bullshit, vote for Barack Obama.

But if you think change is scary, and if you'd rather have the same Katrina-ignoring, economic failing, human rights violating, international-reputation destroying, warmongering same-ole, same-ole, you know, vote for McCain. It's your right.


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[identity profile] elbiesee.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this. (Said the white girl.)

Especially the last third.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't even be sane about her anymore. I tried once, but the she started giving me honest-to-god nightmares.

[identity profile] thisisbone.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
When I heard she pulled that "there's a special hell for women who don't support other women," I wanted to slap her. Other women, yes. Just not YOU, Mrs. Palin.

My husband had to talk me out of a tree this afternoon, I was so infuriated that she's being all "I can talk about whatever I want" when she's twisting and misrepresenting and attacking Obama. It makes me physically ill.

If that's even a tenth of how you feel about the black stereotypes on TV, you have my sympathy.
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[personal profile] copracat 2008-10-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
There are women she supports?

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[identity profile] ficangel.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Abso-fucking-lutely.

He has an eight point lead. Please God may he hang onto it.

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And eight point lead isn't going to cut it, to actually make it happen he's going to need double-digits, because the majority of those people who say they are undecided are going to go into that voting booth on November 4th and think, "Better the devil you know. I'd better go with the white guy."

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[identity profile] silk-knickers.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
*applauds your rant*

I saw the ads for Chocolate News and was taken aback. It is 2008, right?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
The ads for Chocolate News are just so impossibly sexist and offensive that I really kind of boggled.

[identity profile] booboolin87.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, she thinks the earth is 7 thousand years old. That is fucking scary.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
She is fucking scary.

[identity profile] girl-wonder.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
YES. I'm so mad at Palin right now I could spit. And I'd kill to just have one character of color on tv that doesn't make me throw up my hands. It's a sad state of affairs when Top Model is doing pretty well on race compared to everywhere else.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
And I'd kill to just have one character of color on tv that doesn't make me throw up my hands. It's a sad state of affairs when Top Model is doing pretty well on race compared to everywhere else.

Dude, high five. Also, I heard they have a transgender model this season! Wow, Tyra is the most cutting edge casting director on TV. That's just... WTF, man.

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[identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I'm always yelling at the TV about some stupid thing or another that they've done. Sorry they got you upset.

*makes some comfort food for you.*

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
FOOD!
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[identity profile] veryshortlist.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Chocolate news should be about new developments in candy. Not people.

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that news people, even fake news people, get some kind of sick thrill from making bad puns?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:42 am (UTC)(link)

Am I the only one who gets the feeling that news people, even fake news people, get some kind of sick thrill from making bad puns?


It's in their contracts.
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[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
o there's the fact that she was put in just to give the main character a Sassy Black Friend to add to how many issues are there to begin with.

And thusly I start stuttering with rage again.*

*Generally this happens when I'm so close to a rage blackout that all the words are trying to get out at the same time and I get a traffic jam.

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[personal profile] deepad 2008-10-06 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
WORD on one and three.
Re: two--I went to the link and saw that the show hasn't premiered yet. Have you heard spoilers about its approach not being obvious as satire, or the anchor being known for lazy comedy? And would this be a show that Stewart and Colbert have a hand in making? Because if so, I'd want to fire off an email voicing my objections to them. I was just wondering if you had more info. You being God, and all. :)

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
If I was (a) god, let me tell you, there'd be a naked, hotass man in every mailbox by morning.

Re: CN I wanted to hope for the best because David Alan Grier used to be on In Living Color and when ILC was good it was awesome, but it's been 15 years and it looks like this show is a poor-man's version gone very wrong. Stephen and Jon aren't involved at all as far as I know, they just all happen to be on the same network.

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[identity profile] hokuto.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
The scene on Tru Blood where they went to the party was the most racist tripe I've seen on a show in awhile. The whole show is crap but that was just awful. Alan Ball, what are you doing?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
The whole thing makes me crazy. Just talking about it makes me crazy :)

[identity profile] lyra-wing.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Sigh. The idiocy of Palin. I mean, GOD. I could go on for days and days.

Oh, in terms of portrayals of minorities, I do find that Heroes and Lost do decent jobs of portraying people as... people, rather than stereotypes. Or turning stereotypes on their heads outright. (Say what you want about Lost, but it at least does that.)

Somehow this got to be about pimping Heroes! Totally inadvertent. ;)

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! You know, I did appreciate that about Heroes and Lost, when I watched them. Heroes got divorced for a whole other slew of reasons, starting an ending with S2.

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I had a talk about this with my son over breakfast this morning. We talked about her treatment of Obama and her treatment of homosexuals. He's 11, and I want him to understand the subtleties because we live in an area that is very white and very conservative, and he's going to hear it like Palin tells it from A LOT of people around him. I want him to be able to ask the right questions when someone says "different" and means "bad". I want him to be able to point out to other people what it is their doing, especially other kids his age, because most of them are parroting their parents. They could stand to hear some straight talking. If it's OK with you, I'm going to show him your post. It'll bring home a lot of what we were talking about this morning.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
By all means, I think it's awesome that you actually had this conversation with your son, because I think most people just assume that their kids know better or different, but at that age, all you really pay attention to is what your friends say and do.

[identity profile] astralis-lumen.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
When I was little, one of my life ambitions was to be an actress, just so I could play non-stereotypical Asian roles. Because almost anytime you see an Asian woman on TV or in a movie, she's either super!nerd or kung-fu!bitch, not a person I could actually identify with.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
What, you mean you can't do kung-fu, be the geisha or lead MENSA? I am shocked. I want a do-over ;)

[identity profile] sorrelchestnut.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Man, the fact that she "isn't like that in the books" just makes it *worse.* In the books, Tara *is* from a broken home, but that's the only similarity. (And it's broken in a totally different way, btw.) She's white, and is actually really nice most of the time: too nice, as she's kind of a doormat, and has massive issues about sex and latching onto her partner's sexual identity, and those things all add up to do some really amazing commentary on her character, and on people in general and their relation to vampires, which is the whole point of the series. (Sorry for the run-on sentence there.) So what that says about Tara on the show is that she's the only character who basically sprung fully-formed from the minds of the HBO PEOPLE, as opposed to the original author.

And that makes me even more depressed about television than I was before. Because that's clearly what they think is going to draw in the viewers, as opposed to a fascinating, complex character with genuine issues that didn't come from a pre-packaged stereotype. Frankly, it's fucked-up.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
What better draw than an angry black woman, perpetuating every stereotype possible and panting after a piece of trash. Wow. I never watched Six Feet Under and I am fairly sure I will never watch anything by Alan Ball in the future either, because if this is what you come up with that's new and exciting, when you HAD the chance to do something new and exciting? Suck my left toe.
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[identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I often find that I like True Blood despite myself. You know, that show that I watch, it's trashy, and bloody, and full of not-very-hot sex, and it's not sparing the violence either. And well, vampires. *shrugs* It's a kink.

But oh, every so often I shake my head and go: "I wish they hadn't done that." I really like Tara. I can see why she makes you as angry as she does, because they went out and bought the stereotypes in a six-pack or something. And then sometimes they let her be awesome, and it's like they wanted her to be a stereotype so they could break her out of it every once in a while, parade her around and put her back in her place. I'm feeling very conflicted about it, because in the confines of the TB universe, she's really kind of awesome, but on a meta level, she's one of those characters.

I like this show, I do, I've basically lived around the corner from there for a while and it serves a blend of the fantastical, nostalgia and visuals that make me feel at home, but before it even started I knew it would have a lot of issues that I'd have to ignore while watching it. (gods, they made Lafayette a hooker, a drugdealer and had the only two black characters be cousins.)

Also, apparently Brad has his hair grown out and wears leather pants now. I think Nate needs to stage an intervention.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
(gods, they made Lafayette a hooker, a drugdealer and had the only two black characters be cousins.)

You didn't know that every black person in the entire world knows each other? We all have a mental Facebook that way. We are all directly related. It's like when people who aren't from the UK/Germany/US say, oh I have this friend who lives in the UK/Germany/US, do you know them? And all you can think is how many people do you think live in these countries? FIVE?

Also, apparently Brad has his hair grown out and wears leather pants now. I think Nate needs to stage an intervention.

And it's fucking killing me that he's on this show, because I want to see him desperately. I really do, but the whole storyline and depiction of the black characters is SO fucking offensive that I'm just completely blown away. Blown away with RAGE. And you know, if you like it, that's totally your prerogative, I'm not judging you for it, I'm just saying, "This doesn't work for me at all."

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[identity profile] norah.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
amen.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Word.
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[identity profile] norabombay.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I sat. And I thought.

And of all the TV I watch? The last three shows with smart black women with lives and jobs and interests- and who were able to be more than just angry- were all cop shows. L&O- Lt. Van Buren, L&O: SVU- Tamara Tunie's medical examiner, and the woman on Cold Case who's name I never remember. Plus the boss on Dexter.

That's four. All of whom are in criminal justice. And who are there to make a conspicious effort at workplace diversity. None of whom are the titular, main character.

Heck, for asians? I also got L&O: SVU. And really, the best you can say about B.D. Wong's character is that he's much less of a psychopathic killer than the white people. That is faint praise. Sort of "at least he's not as crazy as Stabler" is a thing you could say about 99% of the characters on TV.

Edited to remove accidental blank space, switch the icon, and point out that I basically watch cop shows, news, fake news & reality TV. Not the best pool of shows to choose from.
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[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:52 am (UTC)(link)

That's four. All of whom are in criminal justice. And who are there to make a conspicious effort at workplace diversity. None of whom are the titular, main character.


Exactly. I look forward to the day when people are cast because they are best actor for the role, not because of how they look or don't look, but then again TV is all about looks, so clearly I will see pigs fly first.

and point out that I basically watch cop shows, news, fake news & reality TV

Well, you know, there's not much else on besides that.

[identity profile] sarkastic.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it sad that in the same year the world loses The Wire, the only (sort of) mainstream drama that comes to mind that has a cast of predominantly POCs who are just as interesting if not more than the white characters, we get something like this? I think the show is kind of a trainwreck in so many different ways (I watch for the Skarsgard), but the portryal of Tara is so incredibly baffling (and offensive) to me, especially having read the books where she was nothing like that. Just... what could they possibly have been thinking that led them to believe this was a good idea?

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it sad that in the same year the world loses The Wire, the only (sort of) mainstream drama that comes to mind that has a cast of predominantly POCs who are just as interesting if not more than the white characters, we get something like this? I think the show is kind of a trainwreck in so many different ways (I watch for the Skarsgard),

The Wire was not perfect, but at least it had VARIETY, I mean this is just... I expect more from HBO and this isn't it. Then again, with all the executive unheaval HBO's been cranking out nothing but crap as of late, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

Apparently in the books she's a white girl with a good heart and kind of dippy, I think that's what somebody said. They made this Tara up for the network. I mean really. REALLY?
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[personal profile] ariadne83 2008-10-06 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's terrible. I had no idea the show was like that. I'd been planning on giving it a go because I liked the books, but that's just horrible *shudders*

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
You know, watch it, make up your own mind. I'm not here to sway people one way or the other, I'm just here to call it the way I see it.

[identity profile] reapingfolk.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Yes. A million times yes.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Word.

[identity profile] wyoluvr.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Honest to goodness, my landlord, a white gay guy in his late thirties, and i got to talking earlier today about the election, and why he was only 50% sure he was voting for Obama, and why his good friend, who lives near me (so, start counting, because so far everyone in this story is whiter than white) refuses to vote for Obama because "he's sick of having to hire the dumb black guy instead of the better qualified white guy because of OSU's overactive affirmative action hiring policies."

Oh yes, excellent reasoning there.

And so far, True Blood ONLY has hit most of the major stereotypical racist depictions of black men and women in the South...and there are only two POC on the freaking show...unless you count the 'Cajun' guy.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
"he's sick of having to hire the dumb black guy instead of the better qualified white guy because of OSU's overactive affirmative action hiring policies."


So to get back at the rest of the country, he's going to choose the nutbag, warmongering maverick over the consumately smarter, more educated and better qualified black guy. Yes, that makes perfect sense.

And so far, True Blood ONLY has hit most of the major stereotypical racist depictions of black men and women in the South...and there are only two POC on the freaking show...unless you count the 'Cajun' guy.

It's impressive that they managed to squeeze them all into two. I suppose I should be grateful there's no menacing ex-con wandering around too.

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[identity profile] firesprite1105.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I agree completely. And if I ever meet Sarah Palin on the street, I doubt I'd be able to have any restraint. She acts like she's appealing to the best in people while appealing to the worst in them, and I can't believe how many dumbasses are falling for it. It makes me sick.


[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
She acts like she's appealing to the best in people while appealing to the worst in them, and I can't believe how many dumbasses are falling for it. It makes me sick.M

That is it in a nutshell. Did you see last night's SNL? Tina Fey deserves an Emmy. And so does Queen Latifah.

[identity profile] the-grynne.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
You know, True Blood and its stereotypes doesn't offend me nearly as much as Sanctuary and its whole "We benignly study and help abnormals, and even though we call them 'abnormals' they're really just like you and me - really!" schtick. But I see your point.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not here to rain on anybody's parade, if you enjoy it, more power to you, I'm just saying, this is my opinion, YMMV.

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[identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Tara's one of the least repulsive people on the show. She's better than Sookie at least. She's kind of a joke, yes, but everyone else is too. And I think most of the other characters are worse.

Have you watched much more than the first 15 minutes? I'm not terribly into the show (in case you couldn't tell from the paragraph above ;), but I did make it to episode 4, where Tara spends most of her time being smart and competent and acting like Hermione. She's doing it because she's still pining over the stupid greasy guy, but women in fiction of all colours get that same stupid treatment.

In the books she's basically a non-character, btw. I don't even remember if she was black or her race was even mentioned. I genuinely hated the books, but it isn't fair to lay the blame there.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
I have actually tried to watch at least 3 or 4 of the episodes, because despite how much Tara's depiction turns me off, I wanted to try and make an informed decision before I lost my rag (and because I really do want to see Alexander).

And I don't find Tara herself repulsive, what I vehemently object to is the way they have characterized her, which isn't the same thing.

Also, why is it always the smart women who get caught pining after the stupidest most unworthy men alive, I'd like to say it's because the men are doing the writing, but women do it too? Why man, why?

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