hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2004-10-09 04:22 pm

Book Six spoilers plus a tea plea.

News Bulletin, Bitches!

JKR has made an announcement regarding Book Six

Is nothing sacred, woman? She better kill somebody that nobody remembers. ::hides Theodore behind her back:: I'm just saying. ::hides Neville in linen closet:: I'm the one who whacks people in this universe, not her! ::hides Dean and Seamus:: She's infringing on my territory! ::hides entire Weasley clan, with the exception of Percy in same room as Crabbe and Goyle::

Oh, d'you think it's Percy? I hope it's not Oliver. Could be Victor. Or Fleur!

Remus has suffered enough, oooooh maybe it's Peter.

My problem with knowing this now, apart from the fact that I didn't want to know any spoilers and the media apparently don't give a fuck, is that now I'm going to be stressed out the entire time I read Book Six, wondering who she'll have whacked.

This sucks, dude.

Would some benevolent soul in the UK be able to pop over to Tescos/Sainsbury's/Waitrose and get me some fruit tea? I have people who normally do this, but one's on holiday and the other, well, he's got memory issues. Nothing with lemon or ginger please. I will reimburse or um, write you something.
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[personal profile] medie 2004-10-09 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
If she touches my Remus...or Bill...hell, she better friggin' give back Sirius yet. *is firmly in denial*

You're allowed to kill people cause...y'know, you do it better than she does! :-p

I say sue *evil grin* or set a couple Dementors loose on her or somethin'.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*pets*

I feel your dismay.
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[personal profile] medie 2004-10-09 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
We'll just have to steal the characters away and write them ourselves...

Oh wait, we already do that.

Guess we'll bitch and moan and rail and pout. :-p Or something *G*

[identity profile] elrond50.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking it is a Professor. Snape, Dumbledore, or McGonagall come to mind, but I'm not in the know.

[identity profile] tanizard.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking it is a Professor. Snape...

DON'T SPEAK LIKE THAT, IT HURTS MY HEART.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm.

I hadn't given that much thought, but yes, it could be Mad-Eye or Fudge or Trelawney. As always the latest DADA professor is a good bet.

[identity profile] tanizard.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it would bother me in the least if it was, well, any of those three. The mention of Snape is what sent me into a fuss. Gack.

Well, ok, it bothers me slightly overall that anyone else is going to die. If you QUITE remember, Joanne, that happened in the last two books.

If you want shock-value, write some bloody porn into it. Stop killing off our beloved.

[identity profile] kismeteve.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that is a very good idea. :)

[identity profile] xylodemon.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
As I said in my own journal, if it is Remus, I am going to hang myself in the bathroom with the showercurtain spontaneously die of shock.

After I've wept.

*is not over Sirius*

J

[identity profile] elynrae.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I can get you tea; I'm shopping tomorrow anyway. Do you have any brand preference/fruit preference? I can't actually think of any brand other than Twinings right now because it's half twelve, but if you can, then.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm fairly easy, Twinings or London Tea Co. works. Various berry assortments, mint, etc. As I said just no lemon or ginger.

Thanks :)

[identity profile] shoewhore.livejournal.com 2004-10-11 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Pssssstttt...

http://www.ukgoods.com/

;)

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a Weasley. It'll be a Weasley.

::looks grim::

Or Draco. Harry's gonna whack Draco at some point. Actually, that begs the question -- do you think she'll have Harry KILL a baddie before Book 7 in warm up for Voldemort? How deep will his post-Sirius personal darkness go?

As long as it's not Dumbledore. I'm petrified of a Kenobi and/or Gandalf thing going on.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect you're right. I'm thinking it'll be Percy having a change of heart at the end of his life or one of the elder boys who are always seen but never heard from, and even though I've wiped out the entire family in one line before, the idea makes me a bit sad, I have to confess.

[identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea makes me a bit sad too. For Molly. I adored that scene in OOTP where Harry comes across her and the Boggart ...

I suspect you're right.

::looks stern::

I'm always right.

I have a title for the Nott fic I'll end up writing when I get my brain back from Theodore ...

Here on the border of right and wrong: Things every Slytherin should know
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
As long as it's not Dumbledore. I'm petrified of a Kenobi and/or Gandalf thing going on.

I think it's likely to be Dumbledore. The hero has to lose his/her mentor in the Journey myth; that's why it happened to Obi-Wan and Gandalf.

I don't know that JKR (or Harry) cares enough for Draco to off him. He's a pest, not an Evil Adversary. Besides, WAAAHHSHECAN'TKILLMYDRACONONONO!!!

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
now I'm going to be stressed out the entire time I read Book Six, wondering who she'll have whacked.

How is this different from before?

When we're being rational, we all *know* she's gone to whack at least one named character who people have grown attached to in Book Six. She's escalating, it's a *war*.

Book four: whack Cedric, who had only been in that book.

Book five: whack Sirius, a secondary character we're emotionally attached to, and do it so that some of us can think maybe he's not dead.

. . .

Book seven: it's absolutely certain that she will whack at least one *major* character in the process of defeating Voldemort. Every secondary character can be assumed to be at high risk.

To keep the tension building from 5 to 7, Book 6 *has* to have either the death of one of the older major characters (e.g. Hagrid) or several deaths among secondary characters (e.g. Seamus, Tonks, Goyle).

There was *never* any hope that she wouldn't whack someone in Book 6, so this "spoiler" actually conveys no new information.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There was *never* any hope that she wouldn't whack someone in Book 6, so this "spoiler" actually conveys no new information.

I'm going to have to disagree. I don't necessarily think it was an issue of not having hope as much as not having it as something in the forefront of my conscious. As you pointed out, yes, this is a war and obviously people are going to die because that's what happens during war. At the same time though, at least for me, it's not the first thing I think of when I'm wondering what will occur in Book Six. I'm far more preoccupied with Harry-development and Neville-development and whether or not Tonks is as big a MS as she seems to be, and therefore, this does spoil my enjoyment of the story to a certain degree, hence referring to this news as a 'spoiler'.

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess for me it *is* the first thing I think of when speculating about Book 6, and has been ever since OotP came out. (e.g. see this poll (http://www.livejournal.com/users/mecurtin/125068.html))

Blast!

[identity profile] barbana.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't read the update... *doesn't have AOL*

Re: Blast!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I went link shopping, just for you :) (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041008/ap_en_ot/britain_harry_potter_3)

[identity profile] effervescent.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Am I the only one who's not really surprised by this? I think I just sort of presumed that there would be deaths in every book after Cedric. It's a war, after all - and people do die. If she didn't want any deaths to happen, then Cedric wouldn't have died, obviously. I'm concerned about who and all that...but I'm not surprised at all. The only real objections I'll have is if it IS Harry, but that's just a personal wibble of mine >.<

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
As I was telling [livejournal.com profile] mecurtin I don't think it's a matter of surprise as much as it's a matter of it now being pushed to the forefront of my conscious for the next book.

[identity profile] effervescent.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose that's true. I have no doubt that I'll probably do the same thing for the next book that I did for this one - and sneak so that I can find out who it is before I read the book. *grins* I handle things better if I'm prepared. And I was more thinking about some of the other fans who I *know* will be surprised - which always surprises me, just because of the tone of the books in general. But ah well, we all like to look at the books in a different way.

[identity profile] camillafarfalla.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
now I'm going to be stressed out the entire time I read Book Six, wondering who she'll have whacked.
Jesus, I've never been so stressed reading a book as I was with OotP, waiting to find out - I almost wished I had been spoiled to know who it was, bc then I wouldn't have had that unknowing dread. The night between my two days of reading it was filled with dreams of Hermione or Ron being killed off (though those images disturbed me less than I later felt they should have)... dammit, I don't want to go through that stress again.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know, she said "there will be deaths". She could mean Lucius Malfoy and/or Peter Pettigrew as much as Hagrid or Ron or Dumbledore.


And...I wonder. Why are there so many speculations on Ron's possible demise and almost none on Hermione's? I've yet to come across a prediction that Hermione will buy it in any book (I personally don't think any of the Trio's going to die).

[identity profile] prairiedaun.livejournal.com 2004-10-10 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's partly because there's a perception that the books are rather male heavy already, and she wouldn't go killing off the most character developed female in the book.

Or would she? *cue suspenseful music*

[identity profile] moireach.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I read that quote on her website ("Yes. Sorry.") and didn't think much of it 'cause she totally doesn't say it's going to be in the sixth book -- only the news is reporting it as such. And, dude, I'd be *way* more shocked if the series ended without any more deaths. :) Which isn't to say that it won't necessarily be in the sixth book, but it's hardly as firm as the quotes that referred to the OotP death, imho.

IF IT IS NEVILLE I KILL THE WORLD. Or Ron. Or Hermione. Maybe it's Grawp!

[identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
My money's on Hagrid. Based solely on the final image of the entire hall clapping for him while the camera panned out and away. Damn Hollywood.

Irrationally, I'd be highly pissed if Fudge died.

[identity profile] ztrin.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm betting Hagrid, too. I read this essay (...somewhere) on the redundancy of Hagrid as a character in the series. He acted foremost as Harry's first introduction and contact in the wizarding world and guided child!Harry through it. But now his role is defunct as Harry doesn't need a guide anymore. All the new places in the wizarding world he's seen, he's been forcibly introduced to them (Ministry of Magic, etc) or he already knows them well. What Harry needs to now is to navigate himself through the world, emotionally and psychologically, esp. with Sirius' death. And he can do that only by himself. So Hagrid = extraneous.

Hagrid sort of presents himself as the one last link to Harry's childhood and previous innocence, being the first wizard Harry knew when he was still innocent, young and jailbait-y (cancel the last one). Harry's growing up now and I think JRK would kill Hagrid to cut away all of Harry's links to his previous innocence. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? *INCOHERENT*

On the other hand, my money's on Grawp squashing Hagrid.
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[identity profile] primroseburrows.livejournal.com 2004-10-10 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
acted foremost as Harry's first introduction and contact in the wizarding world and guided child!Harry through it.

Hagrid was Harry's first guide (and I agree that he's redundant right now). BUT. *jumps on soapbox* Harry's main guide to the WW is not Hagrid but Ron He's the archetypal guide, the one who introduces Harry to his new world and helps him manoeuvre around the obstacles that would trip Harry up, travelling with him on the path that Harry will ultimately have to follow alone. I don't think Ron will die in the story, because I think that Harry might completely fall apart if that happened. But I think a lot of people don't see Ron as the strong guide he is, and I really blame the films for that, as much as I may like them. Ron is NOT Harry's sidekick, no matter how many of his lines WB gives to Hermione.

Er. Sorry for the rant. *blush*

[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com 2004-10-09 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was a problem for me in Book 5. I got hysterical over Mr. Weasley's injuries, because I was sure it was him. Now I will go through the same thing in 6. *pouty*

[identity profile] rozza.livejournal.com 2004-10-10 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
She'd snap up Bravest Woman in the World title if she killed off Remus. I don't even want to fucking consider that possibility. It was bad enough when Sirius died.

Truthfully I've believed for some time now that Hagrid will be killed off. Will he be the casualty of book 6? I do not know. But I know that she told Robbie Coltrane all of Hagrid's storylines for the future novels.... I just have a feeling. At least we don't have to wait years upon years to find out, unless the publishing date gets pushed back again.

[identity profile] scaryemilie.livejournal.com 2004-10-11 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
can see you've already had an offer of goodness of the tea variety. ah well. i'll always send goodies out to anyone who requests them, so if you ever need anything, just let me know. :)