Are we there yet? Why the fuck not?

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1. NCIS people, new rule. If it's written by spoonyriffic? READ IT. What she's doing is what I *thought* Gibbs/DiNozzo was supposed to be, snarky and fun and hot. What the hell is up with all the angst and woe and leather chains and fic where Tony's balls are mysteriously missing? Are y'all watching the same show I am?

2. The Hurt Locker. War movie with Jeremy Renner (Walsh from the Unusuals, bitches!) and Guy Pearce! Or as one commenter put it It's basically "Generation Kill", just with different characters and not enough time to develop all the characters. I needs to be seeing this I think.

3. Is anybody else having one of those days too? You know the kind where you wouldn't piss on somebody even if they were on fire? EXACTLY.

4. I like Green Day. I dunno if I've ever mentioned this to you lot, but I do. I have them on my iPod under 'Baby Clash' - yes I have a genre called Baby Clash, because everybody wants to be The Clash, but nobody really is. I was thinking about my Green Day like the other day because Stephen had them on The Report and they were doing 'Know Your Enemy' and it wasn't half bad. I wouldn't pay to see them, but I do not object. And believe me I object to a lot.

Wait, I have to finish this with something happy. Oooh, better yet, sparky77 had this thing where she asked people to mention a fandom and she'd give three unpopular opinions about it. I'll take the one and tweak it a little. Give me a character or a fandom you've seen me write and I'll give you at least three facts about him/her/it.

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[hackthis.livejournal.com]

What does Ray have to say about this. Talk.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

You know, to get a little bit off topic, I do always think about what Ray would be like if Brad and Nate were in some sort of relationship. Like Ray would go through phases. At first he'd think it was absolutely hilarious and take every opportunity to mock Brad about it, and then he'd be all "holy shit! Brad loves him!" and just be kind of stunned and quiet which would worry Brad, and then Ray would get over that and start assessing Nate and wondering if Nate was going to hurt Brad because Ray really didn't want to deal with an upset Brad. He likes Brad the way he is. He worked hard to put him together like that and he's not interested in putting back together the pieces because he hates Puzzles, especially Brad shaped ones (also puzzles encourage conformist behaviour. He got in trouble once in 1st grade for just glueing the pieces of a puzzle together because he didn't do it properly and the picture looked and wrong which he disagreed with. The picture wasn't wrong. It just wasn't what they expected). And, wow, I got distracted. Okay, so first Ray would be amused, and then he would be stunned, and then he would be all protective and trying to figure out the best way to have a conversation with his commanding officer without getting in trouble about how he thought he was great and all, but if he hurt Brad, they would never find the body.

Also, in a physical fight between Brad and Nate, Ray is the only person who would bet on Nate because he would know that there is no way Brad would willing hurt Nate.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Okay, so first Ray would be amused, and then he would be stunned, and then he would be all protective and trying to figure out the best way to have a conversation with his commanding officer without getting in trouble about how he thought he was great and all, but if he hurt Brad, they would never find the body.

DUDE. You are so Ray.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

I am very zen about this fact. And it really does explain my occasional Nate hostility. Huh.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

And it really does explain my occasional Nate hostility.

This is sadness, but I love you anyway.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

I still love Nate. I just worry about Brad's mental health.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Why. Talk me through this. I seem to be at a GK crossroads.

[alethialia.livejournal.com]

irst Ray would be amused, and then he would be stunned, and then he would be all protective and trying to figure out the best way to have a conversation with his commanding officer without getting in trouble about how he thought he was great and all, but if he hurt Brad, they would never find the body.

...dude. And now you have intrigued me as to the nature of Nate and Ray's dynamic, seeing how Nate has stolen Ray's favorite toy and all.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

Ray could probably write a manual called the "care and feeding of Brad" It would be a very detailed and graphic comic book and solemnly present it to Nate, who would laugh. and then Ray would glare at him and be all, "if you fuck this up, I will kill you," and Nate wouldn't know whether he was suppoed to laugh or be very, very afraid.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I would go with both. S77, I feel like you're hinting at something here, does somebody have some latent unresolved issues. Would Ray do this to anybody or Nate in particular and if so, why? Why does he think Nate's going to fuck this up? I see we are coalescing conversations. So come over here and run this conversation with me. You know I'll make you do it eventually.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

I'm thinking. I just realized that my Nate issues were related to my Ray love. I need time to prcoess!

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

You know I'm about to get all up in your stuff, right? This kind of protectiveness stems from either sharing issues, abandonment issues or 'he's mine and you can't have it' which goes back to A. And to an extent I think Ray is right, Brad is his, in as much as he's anybody's. But moreso Ray's. Who takes care of Ray when he's moody? Brad. Who takes care of Brad when Nate's upset him? Ray. Any relationship between Nate and Brad Iraq will have to include Ray to a certain extent. He might not be down with that. Not the gay part, but the part where if they get caught, does he really trust that Nate'll take the hit for Brad? And does that matter if he thinks Brad would throw himself on the sword first?

You know, it may be in Ray's best interests to keep them apart. for all parties concerned. just a thought.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

Okay. Okay. I had the other comment box open, but I'll reply in this one.

I think this all started from a comment romanticalgirl made about how crazy it was that Ray knew all the details of Brad's traumatic previous break up and that Brad calmly let Ray share those details to a stranger with minimal interruptions. I honestly don't think I really processed how insane that was until she pointed it out. However Ray got that information (my guess is that he annoyed Brad until he broke, though I really like romanticalgirl's idea that Ray called Brad's mom) Brad is apparently very comfortable with Ray's knowledge and the level of trust right there from Brad is amazing. And I think the fact that Brad trusts him so much is something that Ray takes a lot of pride in and takes very, very seriously.

The point being that yes, Ray is very protective of Brad + is very protective of his role as Brad's favorite + doesn't do well with authority = Ray not being too happy with Nate. Except I think Ray does like Nate and respected him and most importantly is happy when Brad is happy, so I think he would grudgingly be okay with Brad/Nate, he just wouldn't trust them to go about things in the right way and would feel they needed a lot of supervision and that Nate fully appreciated Brad's awesomeness and realized how lucky he was. And there would be definitely be some power play's on Ray's part about his ability to make Brad come running.

And, you know, I am starting to talk myself into some sort of Brad/Ray/Nate combination because Brad would not be amused by all this and would be all, "you two need to fuck already. I'll watch." and Ray and Nate would be all "EW! That's not what's going on here. And also Ew!" And Brad would raise an eyebrow. And Nate would still be all, "No. No. And No." And Ray would be all "Hmmm. I can work with this."

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Was Brad actually *in* the victor when this conversation transpired? I... that's right, the bit where he talks about seeing all the pictures on their walls. Yeah, that totally fucked Brad's shit all up. Tell me more about Ray finding out, you think he called Brad's *mom*? And said what? "I work with your son, why is he all jacked up?" I think THAT would be a seriously breach of Brad's trust if he did. I think if Brad told him that's one thing, but to go around spouting something he got from Brad's *mom*. Mom's are sacred, you don't fuck with moms.

And, you know, I am starting to talk myself into some sort of Brad/Ray/Nate combination because Brad would not be amused by all this and would be all, "you two need to fuck already. I'll watch." and Ray and Nate would be all "EW! That's not what's going on here. And also Ew!" And Brad would raise an eyebrow. And Nate would still be all, "No. No. And No." And Ray would be all "Hmmm. I can work with this."

I don't see it, but that doesn't mean I can't be convinced.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

I don't really see it either, but I can now see a situation in which it might happen and I am very, very intrigued. Not long term, just enough for Ray to assure himself that he could trust Nate with Brad.

And I pretty much think Ray annoyed Brad into telling him. I'm just amused by the potential between a conversation between Ray and Brad's mom.

I think I need some sort of bank robber AU to straighten about my feelings on all of this.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

I am having issues with GK. I don't... know. lazlet just blind-sided me with the thought of Fight Club! GK. I can see it, I just can't put it in words. I thought about theif!Brad, and Nate. But I wrote that whole outline for you ages ago, so that itch is gone. You got something else for me in your bag of crack?

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

ooooh fight club! GK! I like that.

I am currently crackless. Or rather, I am mostly now thinking about mermaids and how a Brad/Nate/Ray threesome would work. Not together though. That would be too much crack for even me.

Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

[hackthis.livejournal.com]

Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

That horse is dead. Y'all need to stop. Especially so I can get rid of that sudden image in my head of Brad bringing the ladder from his house to climb up to Nate's bedroom in 2 in the morning, b/c he knows Nate's awake and studying (he would've woken him up anyway). Nate's all tired and rumpled, floppy hair everywhere, and he sees Brad and he tries to pretend like he's not pleased, and Brad's all, you should be in bed! And Nate's all STFU I am studying for Calculus and Brad's all, pfft easy, I will help you. Sit next to me on your bed. And Nate's like, do you think I'm that stupid?

Shit. I Hate You. THAT IDEA IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

See? Adorableness! And there would be motorcycles rides. And Ray and Walt in detention together. And also adorableness. And more adorableness. And when that adorableness was done, even more adorableness.

[alethialia.livejournal.com]

Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

FOR THIS YOU HAVE EARNED MY UNDYING DEVOTION!

Not that you didn't have it, of course, but Z just sniffs at me when I mention the hs AU, but YOU. You are like a secret weapon. I need to remember this fact.

The hs AU makes me SO HAPPY but I often wonder where the tension comes from. Is it just a virgins/is he being nice or does he want me thing? Because Brad seems to take great liberties with Nate, to which Nate is very receptive, so I'm like, they're not fucking...why, exactly?

Possibly I should direct this Z's way, but I'm rambling. And also, I love you. ::twirls::

[romanticalgirl.livejournal.com]

You know, you're just evil, right? I mean...EVIL. Hmph.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

I'm not the evil one. hackthis is the evil one.

[romanticalgirl.livejournal.com]

Oh, you're both evil. And that's totally going in the author's notes.

[sparky77.livejournal.com]

ooooh. What are you writing? Is it Brad/Ray/Nate? I am totally okay with my evilness, then.

[romanticalgirl.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure it's Brad/Ray/Nate in the typical definition of /, but it's Brad and Ray and Nate and there's jealousy and friendship and emotion and very dangerous boys playing with guns.