hackthis_archive ([personal profile] hackthis_archive) wrote2009-06-23 01:14 pm

Are we there yet? Why the fuck not?

1. NCIS people, new rule. If it's written by [livejournal.com profile] spoonyriffic? READ IT. What she's doing is what I *thought* Gibbs/DiNozzo was supposed to be, snarky and fun and hot. What the hell is up with all the angst and woe and leather chains and fic where Tony's balls are mysteriously missing? Are y'all watching the same show I am?

2. The Hurt Locker. War movie with Jeremy Renner (Walsh from the Unusuals, bitches!) and Guy Pearce! Or as one commenter put it It's basically "Generation Kill", just with different characters and not enough time to develop all the characters. I needs to be seeing this I think.

3. Is anybody else having one of those days too? You know the kind where you wouldn't piss on somebody even if they were on fire? EXACTLY.

4. I like Green Day. I dunno if I've ever mentioned this to you lot, but I do. I have them on my iPod under 'Baby Clash' - yes I have a genre called Baby Clash, because everybody wants to be The Clash, but nobody really is. I was thinking about my Green Day like the other day because Stephen had them on The Report and they were doing 'Know Your Enemy' and it wasn't half bad. I wouldn't pay to see them, but I do not object. And believe me I object to a lot.

Wait, I have to finish this with something happy. Oooh, better yet, [livejournal.com profile] sparky77 had this thing where she asked people to mention a fandom and she'd give three unpopular opinions about it. I'll take the one and tweak it a little. Give me a character or a fandom you've seen me write and I'll give you at least three facts about him/her/it.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking. I just realized that my Nate issues were related to my Ray love. I need time to prcoess!

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
You know I'm about to get all up in your stuff, right? This kind of protectiveness stems from either sharing issues, abandonment issues or 'he's mine and you can't have it' which goes back to A. And to an extent I think Ray is right, Brad is his, in as much as he's anybody's. But moreso Ray's. Who takes care of Ray when he's moody? Brad. Who takes care of Brad when Nate's upset him? Ray. Any relationship between Nate and Brad Iraq will have to include Ray to a certain extent. He might not be down with that. Not the gay part, but the part where if they get caught, does he really trust that Nate'll take the hit for Brad? And does that matter if he thinks Brad would throw himself on the sword first?

You know, it may be in Ray's best interests to keep them apart. for all parties concerned. just a thought.
Edited 2009-06-23 22:18 (UTC)

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. Okay. I had the other comment box open, but I'll reply in this one.

I think this all started from a comment [livejournal.com profile] romanticalgirl made about how crazy it was that Ray knew all the details of Brad's traumatic previous break up and that Brad calmly let Ray share those details to a stranger with minimal interruptions. I honestly don't think I really processed how insane that was until she pointed it out. However Ray got that information (my guess is that he annoyed Brad until he broke, though I really like [livejournal.com profile] romanticalgirl's idea that Ray called Brad's mom) Brad is apparently very comfortable with Ray's knowledge and the level of trust right there from Brad is amazing. And I think the fact that Brad trusts him so much is something that Ray takes a lot of pride in and takes very, very seriously.

The point being that yes, Ray is very protective of Brad + is very protective of his role as Brad's favorite + doesn't do well with authority = Ray not being too happy with Nate. Except I think Ray does like Nate and respected him and most importantly is happy when Brad is happy, so I think he would grudgingly be okay with Brad/Nate, he just wouldn't trust them to go about things in the right way and would feel they needed a lot of supervision and that Nate fully appreciated Brad's awesomeness and realized how lucky he was. And there would be definitely be some power play's on Ray's part about his ability to make Brad come running.

And, you know, I am starting to talk myself into some sort of Brad/Ray/Nate combination because Brad would not be amused by all this and would be all, "you two need to fuck already. I'll watch." and Ray and Nate would be all "EW! That's not what's going on here. And also Ew!" And Brad would raise an eyebrow. And Nate would still be all, "No. No. And No." And Ray would be all "Hmmm. I can work with this."

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Was Brad actually *in* the victor when this conversation transpired? I... that's right, the bit where he talks about seeing all the pictures on their walls. Yeah, that totally fucked Brad's shit all up. Tell me more about Ray finding out, you think he called Brad's *mom*? And said what? "I work with your son, why is he all jacked up?" I think THAT would be a seriously breach of Brad's trust if he did. I think if Brad told him that's one thing, but to go around spouting something he got from Brad's *mom*. Mom's are sacred, you don't fuck with moms.

And, you know, I am starting to talk myself into some sort of Brad/Ray/Nate combination because Brad would not be amused by all this and would be all, "you two need to fuck already. I'll watch." and Ray and Nate would be all "EW! That's not what's going on here. And also Ew!" And Brad would raise an eyebrow. And Nate would still be all, "No. No. And No." And Ray would be all "Hmmm. I can work with this."

I don't see it, but that doesn't mean I can't be convinced.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really see it either, but I can now see a situation in which it might happen and I am very, very intrigued. Not long term, just enough for Ray to assure himself that he could trust Nate with Brad.

And I pretty much think Ray annoyed Brad into telling him. I'm just amused by the potential between a conversation between Ray and Brad's mom.

I think I need some sort of bank robber AU to straighten about my feelings on all of this.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I am having issues with GK. I don't... know. [livejournal.com profile] lazlet just blind-sided me with the thought of Fight Club! GK. I can see it, I just can't put it in words. I thought about theif!Brad, and Nate. But I wrote that whole outline for you ages ago, so that itch is gone. You got something else for me in your bag of crack?

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
ooooh fight club! GK! I like that.

I am currently crackless. Or rather, I am mostly now thinking about mermaids and how a Brad/Nate/Ray threesome would work. Not together though. That would be too much crack for even me.

Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

That horse is dead. Y'all need to stop. Especially so I can get rid of that sudden image in my head of Brad bringing the ladder from his house to climb up to Nate's bedroom in 2 in the morning, b/c he knows Nate's awake and studying (he would've woken him up anyway). Nate's all tired and rumpled, floppy hair everywhere, and he sees Brad and he tries to pretend like he's not pleased, and Brad's all, you should be in bed! And Nate's all STFU I am studying for Calculus and Brad's all, pfft easy, I will help you. Sit next to me on your bed. And Nate's like, do you think I'm that stupid?

Shit. I Hate You. THAT IDEA IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
See? Adorableness! And there would be motorcycles rides. And Ray and Walt in detention together. And also adorableness. And more adorableness. And when that adorableness was done, even more adorableness.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
You and your cooties need to just step back.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
My adorable cooties of adorableness?

[identity profile] redheadaholic.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But the dead can come back to life...high school AU zombie?

[identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Brad bringing the ladder from his house to climb up to Nate's bedroom in 2 in the morning, b/c he knows Nate's awake and studying (he would've woken him up anyway). Nate's all tired and rumpled, floppy hair everywhere, and he sees Brad and he tries to pretend like he's not pleased, and Brad's all, you should be in bed! And Nate's all STFU I am studying for Calculus and Brad's all, pfft easy, I will help you. Sit next to me on your bed. And Nate's like, do you think I'm that stupid?

FUCK, YEAH!

Adorable? Adorable. Also, motorcycles would kill Nate with the hotness. And make his hair even floppier. Why are they not jumping each other? I am not understanding this.

[identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Shhh. i am in negotiations with this subject matter. We must be wery wery quite, I am hunting wabbits.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2009-06-25 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, is Nate like Joey Potter? So there should be long-winded existential older-than-high-school witty banter.

In the event that this is not a GK/Dawson's mash-up, I know it should be the other way around but I kinda like Nate to be the pink-loving Andie Walsh to Brad's popular kid Blane.

[identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Um... there is always high school aus. I love high school aus. They make the world a better place. And Nate would be the class president and be adorablely earnest.

FOR THIS YOU HAVE EARNED MY UNDYING DEVOTION!

Not that you didn't have it, of course, but Z just sniffs at me when I mention the hs AU, but YOU. You are like a secret weapon. I need to remember this fact.

The hs AU makes me SO HAPPY but I often wonder where the tension comes from. Is it just a virgins/is he being nice or does he want me thing? Because Brad seems to take great liberties with Nate, to which Nate is very receptive, so I'm like, they're not fucking...why, exactly?

Possibly I should direct this Z's way, but I'm rambling. And also, I love you. ::twirls::

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ha!!! I am always all about the highschool aus. And Brad and Nate making out under the bleachers. And on the back of a motorcycle. And in detention. Which Nate had never even been in detention before he started hanging out with Brad. And it doesn't matter that he's already been excepted into first, second, and third choice school, he had a perfect record, and Brad ruined it.

[identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Terrible influence, that Brad. They should've sent him to military school. For shame.

Hee! Such love. Of course Nate wouldn't give himself any slack on the perfect record; it's a matter of HONOR. For which Brad mocks him terribly because never being in detention is hardly a mark of honor. In fact, it may be more honorable just on principle of defying The Man.

Which obviously means they need to do it MORE. I feel bad for their teachers. Kind of.

[identity profile] romanticalgirl.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
You know, you're just evil, right? I mean...EVIL. Hmph.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the evil one. [livejournal.com profile] hackthis is the evil one.

[identity profile] romanticalgirl.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, you're both evil. And that's totally going in the author's notes.

[identity profile] sparky77.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
ooooh. What are you writing? Is it Brad/Ray/Nate? I am totally okay with my evilness, then.

[identity profile] romanticalgirl.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure it's Brad/Ray/Nate in the typical definition of /, but it's Brad and Ray and Nate and there's jealousy and friendship and emotion and very dangerous boys playing with guns.

[identity profile] alethialia.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
...oh, God. You're gonna write one of those Deep, Meaningful stories, aren't you? The ones that break me. I'm not complaining about this at all, for I love those.

I'm not sure it's Brad/Ray/Nate in the typical definition of /

To which I say: oh, good. 'Cause I was having some trouble seeing that, though if anyone can convince me, it'd be you.

[identity profile] romanticalgirl.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
There are nine pages of possible breakage already. God, this fandom makes me *wordy*.

I have a hard time picturing them in a threesome, especially for any length of time, but I can see [livejournal.com profile] hackthis's point about Nate's thoughts on Brad. I mean, I can see them as OTP as well as this kind of "what is this we have going on" and Ray's personal investment in them and them not screwing everything up.

Which isn't to say I won't, at some point, write a threesome with them. I mean, I certainly wouldn't put it past me.

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