So. This is where we’re at.
Sep. 17th, 2003 09:30 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
hackthis_archiveStrangely enough I’m coherent, it could just be the hangover.
The Good
* Seth at Comic Con. Like manna from heaven for a slash writer, and don’t you know I’ve never even BEEN? I’ll fake it.
* The song playing during the club scene was The Chemical Brothers ‘Out of Control.’ Now this probably means fuckall to people who aren’t club kids or who aren’t into electronica (which is not techno), but to those of us who are? It was like Christmas/Hannukah and 4th of July all at the same time. I fucking LOVE The Chems, and the fact that The OC has a real music coordinator, who understands the importance of the right song at the right time and how it helps a scene out? YES! YES Motherfucker YES! Ahem. Right. (Except for those AOL/OC premieres: I never like those songs).
(Also, if nothing else using The Chems made me think about Seth taking Ryan to see Rex again in the not-too distant future, and no, Kassie, no sex at Disneyland unless you write it).
*Seth & Summer bickering. Good lord, how could you fail to be amused by that? The scene at breakfast? That’s them 30 years from now with more wrinkles and several children. Sorry, slash people, but you know I now believe it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.
*Summer actually coming out in a positive light. Go on girlfriend.
The Bad
*Summer, sweetie, after all that grief about the motel room, how are you going to emerge from the bathroom dressed in half a curtain? You're the one who said there were pubes on the bed cover!
*Luke turning out to be the town slut. WTF? Not once was that ever alluded to until last night, way to take the easy way out with the competition PTB. Couldn’t y’all have made them have to work for it? Why is that such an alien idea? Okay, apparently I wasn't thinking straight (snerk), because I'd repressed all his ho-ish behaviour. My bad. How about we stick in here that thing that he and Holly called dancing, because people, that was not dancing. That was bad porn. ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
misswindy knows.
*Marissa’s getting the divorce low down over the phone. Okay, that shit sucks and I talk from experience, but immediately going to sleep? Not possible. See that’s when you go out drinking and get messed up.
*What kind of stupid ass irresponsible brain-dead dumbass mixes tequila with prescription drugs? Marissa, there’s a time to be the damsel in distress and then there’s a time to be a goddamn woman. Shit. She irritates me like a rash.
Life is pain, highness... get over it.
*Jimmy. Oh my god. No brains, no balls, no nothing. I see where Marissa gets it from.
Say What?!
*Anybody else wonder what exactly was on the itinerary Seth made to get over Marissa? Sex, sex and sex perhaps? I see an AU somewhere out there involving body shots and Cuervo Gold!
*On Ryan waking up next to Marissa. You know the real reason he woke up severely startled? Because he realized it wasn’t Seth next to him.
*On Sandy going to work for The Man. WHAT?! For the last seven episodes they’ve been all about Sandy hating on the system and thinking it’s the devil, suddenly he’s swayed by a big pay check? And since we’re on the subject of cash, how on earth are he and Kirsten just having this conversation about feeling emasculated by not being the one with all the cash? They’ve been married at least 17 years! No joke that they have bigger problems.
* Sandy + Rachel = Jimmy + Kirsten.
*ethrosdemon and I were talking on Monday and she was fucking with me because she’d seen the episode already and I hadn’t. I don’t know what I was expecting, because it certainly happened, I just feel kinda like AND? It’s not like we don’t know how things are gonna turn out. Typical TV etiquette says Marissa wouldn’t be in the credits if she was gonna get knocked off, take that hint from Everwood (as opposed to all that stuff with Joss).
Persuant to said argument: If they knock her off they're not going to have a love interest for Ryan... unless they out him and pair him with Seth like I want, but nobody loves me that much. Besides, I think it's pretty well documented that Ryan has that all important 'Messiah/Save those going down the wrong path' thing happening, and who better for him to save than the poor, little rich girl next door? [insert heaving] Personally I think he should start closer to home, like with Seth!
*I got spoiled for October by reading my very first actor/fan interview in about a billion years. I KNEW there was a reason I didn’t read that shit. Well, actually two reasons and that’s one of’em. Nuts.
More thoughts after the second viewing this weekend. In the meanwhile, go here where Miss Windy talks about the Summer love, the strange lack of minorites in a show about Southern Cali and why Marissa needs to get herself a day job.
The Good
* Seth at Comic Con. Like manna from heaven for a slash writer, and don’t you know I’ve never even BEEN? I’ll fake it.
* The song playing during the club scene was The Chemical Brothers ‘Out of Control.’ Now this probably means fuckall to people who aren’t club kids or who aren’t into electronica (which is not techno), but to those of us who are? It was like Christmas/Hannukah and 4th of July all at the same time. I fucking LOVE The Chems, and the fact that The OC has a real music coordinator, who understands the importance of the right song at the right time and how it helps a scene out? YES! YES Motherfucker YES! Ahem. Right. (Except for those AOL/OC premieres: I never like those songs).
(Also, if nothing else using The Chems made me think about Seth taking Ryan to see Rex again in the not-too distant future, and no, Kassie, no sex at Disneyland unless you write it).
*Seth & Summer bickering. Good lord, how could you fail to be amused by that? The scene at breakfast? That’s them 30 years from now with more wrinkles and several children. Sorry, slash people, but you know I now believe it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.
*Summer actually coming out in a positive light. Go on girlfriend.
The Bad
*Summer, sweetie, after all that grief about the motel room, how are you going to emerge from the bathroom dressed in half a curtain? You're the one who said there were pubes on the bed cover!
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misswindy knows.*Marissa’s getting the divorce low down over the phone. Okay, that shit sucks and I talk from experience, but immediately going to sleep? Not possible. See that’s when you go out drinking and get messed up.
*What kind of stupid ass irresponsible brain-dead dumbass mixes tequila with prescription drugs? Marissa, there’s a time to be the damsel in distress and then there’s a time to be a goddamn woman. Shit. She irritates me like a rash.
Life is pain, highness... get over it.
*Jimmy. Oh my god. No brains, no balls, no nothing. I see where Marissa gets it from.
Say What?!
*Anybody else wonder what exactly was on the itinerary Seth made to get over Marissa? Sex, sex and sex perhaps? I see an AU somewhere out there involving body shots and Cuervo Gold!
*On Ryan waking up next to Marissa. You know the real reason he woke up severely startled? Because he realized it wasn’t Seth next to him.
*On Sandy going to work for The Man. WHAT?! For the last seven episodes they’ve been all about Sandy hating on the system and thinking it’s the devil, suddenly he’s swayed by a big pay check? And since we’re on the subject of cash, how on earth are he and Kirsten just having this conversation about feeling emasculated by not being the one with all the cash? They’ve been married at least 17 years! No joke that they have bigger problems.
* Sandy + Rachel = Jimmy + Kirsten.
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ethrosdemon and I were talking on Monday and she was fucking with me because she’d seen the episode already and I hadn’t. I don’t know what I was expecting, because it certainly happened, I just feel kinda like AND? It’s not like we don’t know how things are gonna turn out. Typical TV etiquette says Marissa wouldn’t be in the credits if she was gonna get knocked off, take that hint from Everwood (as opposed to all that stuff with Joss). Persuant to said argument: If they knock her off they're not going to have a love interest for Ryan... unless they out him and pair him with Seth like I want, but nobody loves me that much. Besides, I think it's pretty well documented that Ryan has that all important 'Messiah/Save those going down the wrong path' thing happening, and who better for him to save than the poor, little rich girl next door? [insert heaving] Personally I think he should start closer to home, like with Seth!
*I got spoiled for October by reading my very first actor/fan interview in about a billion years. I KNEW there was a reason I didn’t read that shit. Well, actually two reasons and that’s one of’em. Nuts.
More thoughts after the second viewing this weekend. In the meanwhile, go here where Miss Windy talks about the Summer love, the strange lack of minorites in a show about Southern Cali and why Marissa needs to get herself a day job.
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Date: 2003-09-17 09:40 am (UTC)I'm with you on this, but - Doyle was in the Season One Angel credits, and he was bumped off at the end after all. And Tara only made it *in* to the Buffy credits in the season she bit the bullet.
In other news - Comic. Con. *bursts*
And I like Summer. She makes me laugh.
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:54 am (UTC)Okay, yes, but they've gone to all this trouble to set her up as Ryan's ideal, I doubt they'd do all that work just to knock her off now. Furthermore, my dislike for her is so great, I know they'll be keeping her just to wind me up.
Mmmmm, cuervo....
Date: 2003-09-17 09:43 am (UTC)This is one of the many reasons I love this show.
What kind of stupid ass irresponsible brain-dead dumbass mixes tequila with prescription drugs?
And not even the good tequila! And in a bar straight out of Desparado, psycho bad guys included.
Re: Mmmmm, cuervo....
Date: 2003-09-17 10:55 am (UTC)This is one of the many reasons I love this show.
I sweat your icon, but word to whomever is doing the music for this show. They have my gratitude for doing their job properly -- except for that AOL/OC thing in the middle. I never like those songs.
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Date: 2003-09-17 09:57 am (UTC)They have shown him cheating on Marissa before now. I can't remember if each time it was with the girl from this episode (Holly?), but he went off with some girl in the Pilot and was about to have sex with some girl before he got shot in The Outsider. (I haven't watched every episode yet so I can't say for the rest.) But, yeah, it didn't surprise me at all. ::shrugs::
>What kind of stupid ass irresponsible brain-dead dumbass mixes tequila with prescription drugs?<
Amen.
>You know the real reason he woke up severely startled? Because he realized it wasn’t Seth next to him.<
LOL, too true.
As for the Sandy thing, that really shouldn't have been in this episode. They should have made it a seperate thing. Cause I could not follow that storyline at *all*, because I was too interested in the kids'.
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:58 am (UTC)I think I blocked most of that out. I tend to do that when he and Marissa are on screen.
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:14 am (UTC)Word, word, a thousand times word.
Seth & Summer bickering. Good lord, how could you fail to be amused by that? The scene at breakfast? That’s them 30 years from now with more wrinkles and several children . Sorry slash people, but you know it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.
Far, far from it! My Ryan/Seth lovin' heart gave a lurch, but yes, it was adorable.
*Anybody else wonder what exactly was on Seth’s itinerary to get over Marissa? Sex, sex and sex perhaps? I see an AU somewhere out there involving body shots and Cuervo Gold!
I'll be your faithful, loyal, unwavering minion if you write me that. Cash. Shopping spree at Amoeba. Whatever you want, man, it's so very yours.
*On Ryan waking up next to Marissa. You know the real reason he woke up severely startled? Because he realized it wasn’t Seth next to him.
Oh, good, I wasn't the only one who realized that. Bitch is the most irritating, selfish little cow alive. Tequila and prescription pills? Honey, get over it. Yeah, you have pain, yeah your life sucks, but it's no worse than anyone else's on the planet. And hey, how about you think of what this is gonna do to your friends? Selfish. Little. Cow.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:02 am (UTC)I'll be your faithful, loyal, unwavering minion if you write me that. Cash. Shopping spree at Amoeba. Whatever you want, man, it's so very yours.
*laughs* I've actually already thought very hard on it, and my Seth has all but promised to fill the holes in my JLA collection if I do it. *whispers* I was gonna do it anyway, but hey, free shit it always good.
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:21 am (UTC)I said the exact same thing to
The song playing during the club scene was The Chemical Brothers ‘Out of Control.’ Now this probably means fuckall to people who aren’t club kids or who aren’t into music, but to those of us who are? It was like Christmas/.Hannukah and 4th of July all at the same time.
dude, yes. And yes to the music coordinators. Can I marry them?
Marissa’s getting the divorce low down over the phone. Okay, that shit sucks and I talk from experience, but immediately going to sleep? Not possible.
Also yes. I believe I was yelling this at her too. Or maybe that was just in my head.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:04 am (UTC)I so wanted not to like them together, but they were easily the best thing about the episode.
dude, yes. And yes to the music coordinators. Can I marry them?
One side! One side! Me first!
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:30 am (UTC)Oh, yes. The bright spot of the episode. *g* With my obsession with Smallville, I almost forgot that het can actually be fun. Though I'll admit that it was the mention of Comic Con that dragged me into watching in the first place.
She irritates me like a rash.
Good to know I'm not the only one. I was sitting there, thinking "Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? Fuck that." *shrug* Stupidity irritates the hell out of me.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:01 am (UTC)In seven episodes Marissa has out-Lana'd Lana and she didn't even need dead parents to do it! Get that girl a tequila shot and a tiara!
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Date: 2003-09-17 04:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-09-17 11:07 am (UTC)That was my thought as well. I was completely stymied when I realized that, hey, they would be good together. I was afraid I was going to be smote or something.
Good to know I'm not the only one. I was sitting there, thinking "Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? Fuck that." *shrug* Stupidity irritates the hell out of me.
Yes! My sentiments exactly.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:14 am (UTC)You're right, I know you're right, and I know a lot of teens have problems that they think are the worst things ever, which was really kudos-worthy on the part of the PTB to point out and remind them that there is somebody to talk to.
I suspect my issue was more with the character that anything else. Dude, so your boyfriends an ass, he should not define you. If he's an ass let him be an ass, that's his business, and you should dump him. No man is worth that sort of grief. Nobody is worth your life. Perhaps Marissa's feeling like shit after she slept with Luke as revenge for the whole Ryan/Gabby thing (does NOBODY knock?) but, revenge? A dish best served cold. Don't fuck yourself up thinking it'll hurt somebody else, life simply doesn't work like that, and the sooner she realizes that the better off she'll be.
As for the divorce thing. Well, that is what it is, again, hurting herself is not going to change that.
Wow. I didn't realize I had so many thoughts on this.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:11 pm (UTC)I think a lot of teens go through that whole 'oh, woe is me, I will wear black all the time and hate everything and read existentialist philosophy and listen to The Smiths' phase. For some, not so much a phase as a way of life.
Also, I think it was realistic for her to take the pills after being tanked. We all know that our reasoning abilities are somewhat lacking when drunk. Now, what if you were 16 and weighed 90 lbs and were 5'8"? Five shots might make taking a handful of pills and not having to deal with your lyin', cheatin' daddy and boyfriend AND your mother who has insane expectation, AND the guy you're actually in love with who you think hates you now look pretty good.
Oh god, I just defending Stickette.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:13 pm (UTC)I know, I know. At that age everything is life or death: clothing, boys, music, grades. Jesus Christ surfing on the beach, the pressure is insane. I much prefer being a jaded old hag.
I can't believe you were defenting, Stickette. That's mass hysterical.
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Date: 2003-09-17 01:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-09-17 10:43 am (UTC)They did imply that Luke was a manho in the eppie where he's at the party with Skank all up on his dick, you know, before he got shot? Maybe you blocked that out of you memory since it was traumatic.
I saw spoilers for the next arc, too. Let's commiserate, is it about Marissa? We need a nickname for her. Stickita McRetard? ok, not v clever, but I want to hold her head under the pool until she goes limp. No love for the anorexic Luke-lovin' biotch.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:20 am (UTC)I was all like 'oooh, cat fight!' That was very happy making, and you know I completely block out anything Luke or Marissa related, which makes for some really one-sided scenes.
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:24 am (UTC)*Seth & Summer bickering. Good lord, how could you fail to be amused by that? The scene at breakfast? That’s them 30 years from now with more wrinkles and several children. Sorry, slash people, but you know I now believe it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever.
Word. I may be a big-time slasher, but I loves my het when it's there. I just follow the chemistry. And these two? Total chemistry. So. Freakin. Cute. "Rage blackouts. Right. I'll be in the car."
Marissa? Just ... gaaaah.
*On Ryan waking up next to Marissa. You know the real reason he woke up severely startled? Because he realized it wasn’t Seth next to him.
Naturally!
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:53 pm (UTC)*looks over innocently* what took you so long?
Word. I may be a big-time slasher, but I loves my het when it's there. I just follow the chemistry. And these two? Total chemistry. So. Freakin. Cute. "Rage blackouts. Right. I'll be in the car."
Marissa? Just ... gaaaah.
Exactly. As much as I would slash apples and oranges, when it's there you can't fight it. That is there, and it's good. Can't you see Ryan and Summer scrapping over Seth?
*has small blackout*
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:56 pm (UTC)Conflicting schedules. I was pretty hooked on the fic ::coughkissingsethcohencough:: but acutally seeing the show was something else.
Can't you see Ryan and Summer scrapping over Seth?
Yeah. I can. *pokes* What? You're not going to take that little bunny home and feed it?!?!? Please? *bats eyelashes*
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Date: 2003-09-17 01:03 pm (UTC)Yeah. I can. *pokes* What? You're not going to take that little bunny home and feed it?!?!? Please? *bats eyelashes*
Do you know how many bunnies I have at my house right now? I need a kennel! Seriously, in addition to all those other fandom birthday stories that I haven't written (4) *OCcockblockingalert* There's the body shots & tequila story that must be written (the law according to seth) and there's an AU that I'm in denial at having planned.
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Date: 2003-09-17 01:29 pm (UTC)Okay, what do I have to do to get you to spill?
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Date: 2003-09-17 11:25 am (UTC)You mean Ryans?
I loved loved LOVED the Comic Con shoutout. I had so much fun in July and it totally made me squee to imagine Seth there. I have to admit, The OC is being far more realistic to So Cal than 90210 ever was. The OC just name drops cities and events everywhere, and I can't even imagine understanding the whole scope of the show without living in OC.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-09-17 11:45 am (UTC)Sandy + Rachel = Seth + Summer
Both father and son totally get off on the snarky banter, man. It's eerie.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:56 pm (UTC)Both father and son totally get off on the snarky banter, man. It's eerie.
It was wild how much the kids reminded me of their parents yesterday. Marissa was a mini-Jimmy and Seth was mini-Sandy.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:53 pm (UTC)I have only just started watching two weeks ago, but it really seems to me like Ryan and Seth are meant to be together. mmmm.
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Date: 2003-09-17 12:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-09-17 02:36 pm (UTC)I am officially in love with Summer. She can say "Ew!" all she wants to. Her bickering with Seth was fantastic - so funny and so apropos to both their characters.
I can buy into the "Marissa suicide attempt", but I have to give it a lot of thought because of Mischa Barton's lack of acting skills. She really doesn't pull off tormented well.
I cannot wait til the end of the hiatus!
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Date: 2003-09-18 02:51 pm (UTC)To borrow Hollywood's two favorite words: "no comment."
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Date: 2003-09-17 10:50 pm (UTC)Word for most of your points (esp. Summer dressed in a curtain) but honestly? Seth put me in a such a happy place with the Comic Con shoutout and the patting-the-bed so his boyfriend can cry on his shoulder that I was just riding that high throughout (though what was up with the TJ set?). The love was solidified with the Summer/Seth snark and the mention of Death Cab. I'm a shallow viewer - I admit it. *g*
(And I knew you'd freak out over the Chems - I was freakin out over Kruder & Dorfmiester at the end. K&D! Gotta love that music supervisor. Must make an OC mix CD NOW)
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Date: 2003-09-18 02:53 pm (UTC)I was completely dumbfounded. Listening to the music was like, What's that music? No way. But it sounds like... No way! Way? Way! WAY!
Marissa: Irritant Extroadinaire
Date: 2003-09-24 03:29 am (UTC)