Music bitch posting.
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hackthis_archiveFirst, I’d like to send a big shoutie to the author of my yuletide fic, Gimme a Sign. I heart you like you wouldn’t believe. Boys! Cars! Ryan! I dunno who wrote this, but you so rock, you belong in the Hall of Fame. Also, they need to bring back Fastlane NOW, dammit.
Second, I think the yuletide thing was hella cool, because how can one go wrong with Ocean’s Eleven fic? And mad props to everybody who did it, don’t get me wrong, but how is HP an Obscure Fandom?
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serialkarma has finally discovered the brilliance that is Ryan, and this makes me very very happy. I mean I’ve only been talking about him *forever*, but since she’s finally listening to me I decided I should put together a list of other music recommendations. So here, in all my biased opinion, I present:
The Ten Greatest Groups/Singers You’ve Never Heard of
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Group/Singer:: Doves
When & Where: Since 1993, coming from Manchester in every incarnation possible.
Why should I care?: Doves were originally an electronica band called Sub-Sub that somewhere along the way decided they wanted to make a change, and so they did. Out went the Chemical Brothers-type stuff and in came the introspective point of view about not letting life pass you by.
If you like: Radiohead (pre-OK Computer), Sigur Ros, Badly Drawn Boy try them.
2.
Group/Singer:: Ed Harcourt
When & Where: Bringing depressed grooves to you since 2000 and representing East Sussex.
Why should I care?: Droll, way too introverted and so brilliant on the piano. The last time I saw Ed he played “The Rainbow Connection.” How can you not love somebody who’s down with the Muppets?!
If you like: Rufus Wainwright, The Smiths try him.
3.
Group/Singer: Elbow
When & Where: Since the late 90’s. Straight of out Manchester.
Why should I care?: The five members of Elbow met at university and decided that playing music and drinking was preferable to getting a degree. Who can’t understand that sort of decision-making process? Their vocalist, Guy Garvey, looks like a big wooly mammoth, but has a voice like syrup. Bring spare underwear.
If you like: Travis, Starsailor, Damien Rice try them.
4.
Group/Singer: Gomez
When & Where: From the Home Counties of the UK. A five-piece band with three singers. They specialize in pretty much every instrument known to man, and have been around since the mid-90’s. Their first album Bring it On won the Mercury Music Prize, which in the UK is like a musical Oscar, except it's a *good* thing.
Why should I care?: Seeing them perform live is like an otherworldly experience. Have underground followings much like The Grateful Dead or the String Cheese Incident. Once you go, you’re hooked for life.
If you like: Embrace, Doves, Starsailor, Wilco try them.
5.
Group/Singer: Jurassic 5
When & Where: Since the early 90’s. Created on the LA underground rap scene. Known for intelligent rap in the vein of Talib Kweli and The Roots. One of the founding members used to rap in Ozomatli (an LA Latino rap group)
Why should I care?: Because they really are that good.
If you like: A Tribe Called Quest, The Roots, try them.
6.
Group/Singer: Matt Nathanson
When & Where: From the Bay Area since 2000.
Why should I care?: 1) He’s got a Bon Jovi wallet, which is Velcro, that he likes to talk about a lot. 2) He’s fifty times better live than whatever you hear on the CD 3) He’s a pleasure to hang out with, even when he’s not wearing a belt.
If you like: Ryan Adams, John Mayer (who he opened for) try him.
7.
Group/Singer:: Morcheeba
When & Where: Two brothers and girl they met at a party. From London.
Why should I care?: They’re atmospheric without being pretentious and mellow without being depressing.
If you like: Portishead, Theivery Corporation, Weekend Players, Zero 7 try them.
8.
Group/Singer: Sondre Lerche
When & Where: All the way from Bergen, Norway since 2002
Why should I care?: Sondre is about 5’2 and 98 lbs, wet, but he’s got a voice like an angel and a decidedly upbeat attitude about pretty much everything. He’ll make you smile. He’s also got this electric blue Gibson guitar that he totally rocks out on. Plus, he’s been known to rap in concert and the amusement factor is so high you might break something important.
If you like: Jeff Buckley, John Mayer try him.
9.
Group/Singer: The Verve
When & Where: 1990-1999. Hailing from Wigan, England, which is right outside Manchester.
Why should I care?: They got together, did some drugs and made an album. Then they did some more drugs and had a nervous breakdown. Then they did some more drugs and made another album. Then they did some more drugs and had other nervous breakdown. Then they did another album, with you know, more drugs. Then they fell apart. I’ll never forgive them.
If you like: Oasis (when they were good), Radiohead, Coldplay try them.
10.
Group/Singer:: Whiskeytown
When & Where: 1995-1997.
Why should I care?: Well, before there was Ryan Adams, solo artist, wearer of blue eyeliner and drinker extraordinaire, there was Whiskeytown. Heralded as the New Big Thing in alt-country, they didn’t quite stick around long enough to find out. They did manage to stick around long enough for Ryan to create a big feud with Wilco’s Jeff Tweedy though. Their best LP, Pneumonia, was only their third and was released by their music company three years after they broke up.
If you like: Ryan Adams and/or Wilco, Gram Parsons try them.
Also, while I’m on a roll:
Five Popular Songs of 2003 that I Really Fucking Hate
5. ‘Hey Ya’ by Outkast: Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely adore Outkast, and Stankonia and ATLiens were brilliant LPs. ‘B.O.B. (Bombs over Baghdad)’ is one of the most brilliant songs they’ve ever done, but this song gives me a migraine. When it comes on I have to leave the room
4. Anything by Evanenencse: I’m not sure I spelled that right. I don’t actually care. I can’t listen to it at all. It makes me run from the room faster than Wally changes clothes or else my ears bleed. Really.
3. ’Stacy’s Mom’ by Fountains of Wayne If I have to hear that annoying lead singer doing his Mrs. Robinson bastardization one more time I’m going to find him and rip out his vocal chords through his navel.
*tied for the top-position*
1. Anything by R. Kelly: This man peed on a 14 year-old girl between sexual acts with her. Why is he not in jail?
1. Anything by Ashanti: This Aaliyah rip-off doesn’t have enough talent to lick a real vocalist’s boots. My irrational hatred is not helped by the fact that she's everywhere making noises like a seal being gutted. She rode in on somebody else’s coattails and I can’t wait until she rides them right on back out. *stabs with spork*
Five Popular Songs of 2003 that I Actually Really Fucking Love
5. 'Bright Lights' by Matchbox Twenty: I have a friend who swears by MB20 like most people swear by the Bible. I’ve liked their other stuff, but never to the point of insanity. This song though, this song drives me crazy in the good, sing-it-all-the-time- even-in-the-bathroom way.
4. 'Get By' by Talib Kweli: Every time I think rap has gone so far in the wrong direction that there’s no hope, somebody comes along and proves me wrong. A song about making a better life that also name-drops the Beatles and Attack of the Clones.
3. 'P.I.M.P' by 50 Cent: Love him or hate him 50 Cent was fucking everywhere in 2003. This song utilized Snoop Dogg and steel drums to the best of their ability and it’s so damn catchy it’ll make you cry.
2. 'Harder to Breathe' by Maroon 5: Straight out of San Diego onto rotation on VH1 Hits (a specialty channel like VH1 Soul), Maroon 5 first made waves in the early summer. Eventually they were picked up by the big network and took off. ‘Harder to Breathe’ rocks out pretty hard considering it’s sung by a guy who looks like a distant relation of Ian Somerhalder.
1. 'Clocks' by Coldplay: Wayyyyyy back in the day (August 2002) when nobody knew who I was talking about, I yammered on about how great this LP was and how everybody should buy it. Finally, people listened, and voila Grammies! Babies! A hiatus until 2005! A true testament to this song, however, is the fact that it’s been all over the airwaves (which is probably why I don’t listen to the radio) and I still love it.
Second, I think the yuletide thing was hella cool, because how can one go wrong with Ocean’s Eleven fic? And mad props to everybody who did it, don’t get me wrong, but how is HP an Obscure Fandom?
Third, it seems that
serialkarma has finally discovered the brilliance that is Ryan, and this makes me very very happy. I mean I’ve only been talking about him *forever*, but since she’s finally listening to me I decided I should put together a list of other music recommendations. So here, in all my biased opinion, I present:The Ten Greatest Groups/Singers You’ve Never Heard of
1.
Group/Singer:: Doves
When & Where: Since 1993, coming from Manchester in every incarnation possible.
Why should I care?: Doves were originally an electronica band called Sub-Sub that somewhere along the way decided they wanted to make a change, and so they did. Out went the Chemical Brothers-type stuff and in came the introspective point of view about not letting life pass you by.
If you like: Radiohead (pre-OK Computer), Sigur Ros, Badly Drawn Boy try them.
2.
Group/Singer:: Ed Harcourt
When & Where: Bringing depressed grooves to you since 2000 and representing East Sussex.
Why should I care?: Droll, way too introverted and so brilliant on the piano. The last time I saw Ed he played “The Rainbow Connection.” How can you not love somebody who’s down with the Muppets?!
If you like: Rufus Wainwright, The Smiths try him.
3.
Group/Singer: Elbow
When & Where: Since the late 90’s. Straight of out Manchester.
Why should I care?: The five members of Elbow met at university and decided that playing music and drinking was preferable to getting a degree. Who can’t understand that sort of decision-making process? Their vocalist, Guy Garvey, looks like a big wooly mammoth, but has a voice like syrup. Bring spare underwear.
If you like: Travis, Starsailor, Damien Rice try them.
4.
Group/Singer: Gomez
When & Where: From the Home Counties of the UK. A five-piece band with three singers. They specialize in pretty much every instrument known to man, and have been around since the mid-90’s. Their first album Bring it On won the Mercury Music Prize, which in the UK is like a musical Oscar, except it's a *good* thing.
Why should I care?: Seeing them perform live is like an otherworldly experience. Have underground followings much like The Grateful Dead or the String Cheese Incident. Once you go, you’re hooked for life.
If you like: Embrace, Doves, Starsailor, Wilco try them.
5.
Group/Singer: Jurassic 5
When & Where: Since the early 90’s. Created on the LA underground rap scene. Known for intelligent rap in the vein of Talib Kweli and The Roots. One of the founding members used to rap in Ozomatli (an LA Latino rap group)
Why should I care?: Because they really are that good.
If you like: A Tribe Called Quest, The Roots, try them.
6.
Group/Singer: Matt Nathanson
When & Where: From the Bay Area since 2000.
Why should I care?: 1) He’s got a Bon Jovi wallet, which is Velcro, that he likes to talk about a lot. 2) He’s fifty times better live than whatever you hear on the CD 3) He’s a pleasure to hang out with, even when he’s not wearing a belt.
If you like: Ryan Adams, John Mayer (who he opened for) try him.
7.
Group/Singer:: Morcheeba
When & Where: Two brothers and girl they met at a party. From London.
Why should I care?: They’re atmospheric without being pretentious and mellow without being depressing.
If you like: Portishead, Theivery Corporation, Weekend Players, Zero 7 try them.
8.
Group/Singer: Sondre Lerche
When & Where: All the way from Bergen, Norway since 2002
Why should I care?: Sondre is about 5’2 and 98 lbs, wet, but he’s got a voice like an angel and a decidedly upbeat attitude about pretty much everything. He’ll make you smile. He’s also got this electric blue Gibson guitar that he totally rocks out on. Plus, he’s been known to rap in concert and the amusement factor is so high you might break something important.
If you like: Jeff Buckley, John Mayer try him.
9.
Group/Singer: The Verve
When & Where: 1990-1999. Hailing from Wigan, England, which is right outside Manchester.
Why should I care?: They got together, did some drugs and made an album. Then they did some more drugs and had a nervous breakdown. Then they did some more drugs and made another album. Then they did some more drugs and had other nervous breakdown. Then they did another album, with you know, more drugs. Then they fell apart. I’ll never forgive them.
If you like: Oasis (when they were good), Radiohead, Coldplay try them.
10.
Group/Singer:: Whiskeytown
When & Where: 1995-1997.
Why should I care?: Well, before there was Ryan Adams, solo artist, wearer of blue eyeliner and drinker extraordinaire, there was Whiskeytown. Heralded as the New Big Thing in alt-country, they didn’t quite stick around long enough to find out. They did manage to stick around long enough for Ryan to create a big feud with Wilco’s Jeff Tweedy though. Their best LP, Pneumonia, was only their third and was released by their music company three years after they broke up.
If you like: Ryan Adams and/or Wilco, Gram Parsons try them.
Also, while I’m on a roll:
Five Popular Songs of 2003 that I Really Fucking Hate
5. ‘Hey Ya’ by Outkast: Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely adore Outkast, and Stankonia and ATLiens were brilliant LPs. ‘B.O.B. (Bombs over Baghdad)’ is one of the most brilliant songs they’ve ever done, but this song gives me a migraine. When it comes on I have to leave the room
4. Anything by Evanenencse: I’m not sure I spelled that right. I don’t actually care. I can’t listen to it at all. It makes me run from the room faster than Wally changes clothes or else my ears bleed. Really.
3. ’Stacy’s Mom’ by Fountains of Wayne If I have to hear that annoying lead singer doing his Mrs. Robinson bastardization one more time I’m going to find him and rip out his vocal chords through his navel.
*tied for the top-position*
1. Anything by R. Kelly: This man peed on a 14 year-old girl between sexual acts with her. Why is he not in jail?
1. Anything by Ashanti: This Aaliyah rip-off doesn’t have enough talent to lick a real vocalist’s boots. My irrational hatred is not helped by the fact that she's everywhere making noises like a seal being gutted. She rode in on somebody else’s coattails and I can’t wait until she rides them right on back out. *stabs with spork*
Five Popular Songs of 2003 that I Actually Really Fucking Love
5. 'Bright Lights' by Matchbox Twenty: I have a friend who swears by MB20 like most people swear by the Bible. I’ve liked their other stuff, but never to the point of insanity. This song though, this song drives me crazy in the good, sing-it-all-the-time- even-in-the-bathroom way.
4. 'Get By' by Talib Kweli: Every time I think rap has gone so far in the wrong direction that there’s no hope, somebody comes along and proves me wrong. A song about making a better life that also name-drops the Beatles and Attack of the Clones.
3. 'P.I.M.P' by 50 Cent: Love him or hate him 50 Cent was fucking everywhere in 2003. This song utilized Snoop Dogg and steel drums to the best of their ability and it’s so damn catchy it’ll make you cry.
2. 'Harder to Breathe' by Maroon 5: Straight out of San Diego onto rotation on VH1 Hits (a specialty channel like VH1 Soul), Maroon 5 first made waves in the early summer. Eventually they were picked up by the big network and took off. ‘Harder to Breathe’ rocks out pretty hard considering it’s sung by a guy who looks like a distant relation of Ian Somerhalder.
1. 'Clocks' by Coldplay: Wayyyyyy back in the day (August 2002) when nobody knew who I was talking about, I yammered on about how great this LP was and how everybody should buy it. Finally, people listened, and voila Grammies! Babies! A hiatus until 2005! A true testament to this song, however, is the fact that it’s been all over the airwaves (which is probably why I don’t listen to the radio) and I still love it.
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Date: 2003-12-29 11:01 am (UTC)Cool lists.
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:30 pm (UTC)The sounds of university life, yes, that's a good way to describe them.
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Date: 2003-12-29 11:05 am (UTC)Have you ever heard Interpol (http://www.interpolny.com/")?
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:34 pm (UTC)Think I'd learn by now, there's never an easy way ...
Date: 2003-12-29 11:20 am (UTC)*loves on you even MORE than usual*
And *word* on Maroon 5 and "Harder to Breathe". Songs About Jane kicks almighty ass. Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets the vague Somerhalder vibe off of Adam Levine.
Re: Think I'd learn by now, there's never an easy way ...
Date: 2003-12-29 12:36 pm (UTC)I am so fond of Songs About Jane, too, and I'd never quite caught the lead singer/Ian Somerhalder thing until I saw the video for 'This Love' the other day and wondered where the cloning lab was at.
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Date: 2003-12-29 11:30 am (UTC)Also, the Ocean's Eleven you linked to is fabulous. One of my faves of the Yuletide stuff I've been reading.
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:38 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:39 pm (UTC)As for the Stacey's Mom thing, I'm appalled and horrified, but it's not your fault.
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:20 pm (UTC)Yay Music!!!
Date: 2003-12-29 11:46 am (UTC)I've been pimping (no, evangelizing) Morcheeba & Gomez since like 97? And the best thing about the radio here in Austin is they actually play Whiskeytown. And Wilco. Of course, they also started playing Norah Jones back in the first week of March, *2002*--so yeah, I'm ready for her to have a new album now.
Have you heard of Matthew Ryan? They're playing "Return to Me," which I'm loving along the lines of Coldplay when "Clocks" first came out--I had a post like that, too. He's kind of like a cross between Joseph Arthur & Ryan Adams to me.
Re: Yay Music!!!
Date: 2003-12-29 12:42 pm (UTC)Ah, a believer of the old skool. *shakes hand* That's what I'm talking about, the days of Big Calm and Bring it On. I'm so shocked to hear that Whiskeytown and Wilco get played on the radio, but hey, I've only lived in enormous cities on either coast, and they're all about their play list rotation. *sporks The Man*
As for Norah, I heard her open for John Mayer, back when I still thought I might like him, so much like you we're talking like two years ago. Need something new, dammit!
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:01 pm (UTC)*feels smug*
Random fact of the day: I went to the pub with Gomez, once. The lead singer was going out with a friend of *my* friend with whom I was staying in Matlock for the weekend. They were very nice and chirpy, and I didn't know who they were because they'd only released one song, and I didn't like it. *laughs*
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Date: 2003-12-29 12:44 pm (UTC)I heard the Gomez boys, too.
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Date: 2003-12-29 01:02 pm (UTC)I never thought about the Maroon 5/Ian Somerhalder thing but you're kind of right. I just remember he was so hot onstage even the straight guy I was at the show with was panting after him.
Also, I don't know if I ever told you, but back when I was still lurking around LJ you yammered on about Coldplay's album so much I finally went and bought it. Good decision on my part. See? This is what you have to do to get me to listen to new stuff. Otherwise I get distracted.
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Date: 2003-12-29 02:18 pm (UTC)That was totally my thinking the first time I saw him as well. I wanted to take him home and cook for him, and I won't even cook for *me*!
Also, I don't know if I ever told you, but back when I was still lurking around LJ you yammered on about Coldplay's album so much I finally went and bought it. Good decision on my part. See? This is what you have to do to get me to listen to new stuff. Otherwise I get distracted.
See, my yammering does pay off! [sidebar]It's so weird to think there was a time on LJ when I didn't know you. Huh. What? Yes, life does begin and end with me, haven't you heard?[/sidebar][/egotistical moment]
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Date: 2003-12-29 04:39 pm (UTC)Word. Funny how that works, huh? And didn't you know life begins and ends with *me*? *snerk*
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:20 pm (UTC)Okay, first of all? Rob Thomas - so my radio boyfriend. (Though he has an uncanny resemblence to Elijah Woods sometimes, which is just weird.)
Second of all, I have decided to forgive him his emphatic gender-specific pronouns. Because when I do that, this song is all about Chloe and Lana thinking about Clark after he ran away. If my computer at home was behaving (instead of forcing me to work on the downstairs, in the middle of the living room, right under my family's curious eyes, computer), I'd have wallpaper to this effect already made and posted. As it is, it's on hold for now.
Dammit.
And as for Confidence Men (http://www.intimations.org/yuletide/archive/1/confidencemen.html), well, you know how I feel about Ocean's 11! This story is everything I love about Danny and Rusty.
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:51 pm (UTC)*boggles* Whatever you're drinking, tell me so that I can avoid it like the plague.
And as for Confidence Men, well, you know how I feel about Ocean's 11! This story is everything I love about Danny and Rusty.
Dude, that story is so good I was all, "damn, I wish I'd written/gotten O11 for the challenge!"
This round's on me!
Date: 2003-12-29 06:52 pm (UTC)Here's the bottle; somebody peeled off the label long ago.
You took a swig, too, didn't you?
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:27 pm (UTC)Dude. Me too. This song brings out all my homicidal tendencies. *stab stab stab*
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:52 pm (UTC)Dude. Me too. This song brings out all my homicidal tendencies. *stab stab stab*
You know how dogs go crazy at certain high pitched noises? That's how I feel about that song, it makes me crazed in the worst, most violent ways possible.
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Date: 2003-12-29 03:47 pm (UTC)i applaud your musical tastes. i do not applaud coldplay's decision to make me wait until '05. hmmph.
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Date: 2003-12-29 04:00 pm (UTC)Wasn't he the cutest thing you'd ever seen? I had zero attraction to him, but I totally wanted to take him home and cook for him and have him sing for me.
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Date: 2003-12-29 04:03 pm (UTC)I'm sure you were never a musically ignorant just perhaps misguided. Damn, Clear Channel!
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Date: 2003-12-30 12:56 pm (UTC)Doves are a big huge giant favorite of mine. As are The Verve (and Ashcroft's solo stuff). Sondre Lerche is a little adorable pixie and I lurve him. In fact, I pretty much like everything you've listed except Jurassic 5 and Whiskeytown (this is where you decided to hate me. I cannot stand Ryan Adams. But that's okay because you don't like Interpol, and I still love you. Mostly.)
Also, I am doing a painting of your icon (well, without the Zahra part).
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Date: 2003-12-30 09:43 am (UTC)Yeah, they've been stuck somewhere in the middle for years now, I keep waiting for them to get theirs. I totally thought that was going to happen with Quality Control but no soap, I wasn't a great lover of Power in Numbers, but QC was truly the business.
4. 'Get By' by Talib Kweli: This is the song that made me fall in love with Kanye West and want to have his babies as long as they could produce beats like that. Alas, all I got was a restraining order.
That man's got talent coming out of everywhere. He's my artist to look at in 2004; I just pray he doesn't wind up pulling a Pharrell/P.Diddy. There is such a thing as over-exposure, you know?
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Date: 2003-12-29 05:35 pm (UTC)I am so with you on the five songs that you hate. *fist of fury* I hate Evanescance beyond words, man. Just. Stacy's Mom. Oh god. This group of fifth graders started singing it really loudly the other day, and omgmyears.
Coldplay, Matt Nathanson, Harder to Breathe = clearly awesome.
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Date: 2003-12-30 09:43 am (UTC)That song makes my ears bleed. Really.
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Date: 2003-12-29 08:39 pm (UTC)Also, your taste in music rocks and they definitely need to bring Fastlane back NOW.
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Date: 2003-12-30 09:48 am (UTC)*throws up devil horns*
Thank you.
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Date: 2003-12-30 09:42 am (UTC)1. Anything by Ashanti
OMG thank you. I saw her on...MTV2 or Fuse or something, and I was like, "Dude, she sucks big sweaty donkey balls." And it's pretty sad when you can ride the coattails of a master of suckage like Jay-Z to stardom. *gags*
Also, I don't understand how R. Kelly was ever popular. All moral issues aside, his music is lame.
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Date: 2003-12-30 09:55 am (UTC)The song in question is "Bittersweet Symphony," which was their one break-out hit in America. The ironic thing about it, is that all the exposure the song got wasn't their idea at all. They were sued for using six bars of a Rolling Stone song and lost the case, thereby losing all rights to the song. The rights to the song were reverted to the Stones old manager, who by all accounts is only slightly less bonkers that Phil Spector, and he leased the song to Nike and all those other commercials. I'll shut up now.
Also, I don't understand how R. Kelly was ever popular. All moral issues aside, his music is lame.
Preach it, sister.
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Date: 2003-12-30 01:14 pm (UTC)Damn, really? That sucks about the rights. Though I suppose that would explain why nothing else of theirs got played around here.