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Q: Did you hear the one about Rooney playing in Newport?

A: Well if you didn’t you could always ask Luke. I think he knows it better than anyone, now that he’s become Josh’s Pete Ross. What is it about screenwriters that they think it’s a good idea to have their actors screaming like teenyboppers? I mean it wasn’t like Rooney’s name wasn’t plastered all over the entire fucking episode anyway.

*pets Josh* It’s okay, sweetie, you still rock.

Also, trivia time, they shot the show at the Roxy. Yes, that Roxy on Sunset. I’ve been to the Roxy enough, trust me on this one.

Other observations about last night:

Fashion:

+ Sweet mother of Zeus, I dunno what’s going on in wardrobe, but maybe they should step outside and get some air. I’m sure [livejournal.com profile] marleigh loved how Strokes!Julian Seth looked, but not so much my favorite look. The same could be said of Anna’s PVC jacket, but I suppose everybody has to own one piece of vinyl clothing at some point in their lives. I did like her earrings for a change though, so there is that.

I was not, however, feeling Summer’s earrings, because there’s only so much mini-Gwen Stefani I can take at any given time. Although I will say that even with the bouffant hair she looked hot. My girl hated the hair, but I thought it was very rock-n-roll of her. Except that Rooney aren’t rock-n-roll, but you say pot-tah-toe, and I say French fries.

+ In a random note: I was going to buy Kassie that Care Bears shirt that Haley was wearing, but I’m kinda glad I didn’t. I will not like Haley. I will not like Haley.

I will be glad that they washed all the gel out of Luke’s hair though. Yes. Definitely.


The Cohen Men

+ Who doesn’t love Sandy? Really. Even when he’s delivering the Smackdown, he’s still the best dad around. I’d buy him lots of bagels, I’m just wondering where the lox is. Dude, you cannot have bagels and cream cheese without lox.

+ I see that you spell whipped R-Y-A-N. Who else could really go for some Ryan/Seth time? Like *now*.


Miscellaneous

+ I’m at the point where I’m not sure what to make of Oliver. I don’t love him; I don’t hate him; I’m just waiting to see where they take him. The same can be said of Luke.

+ I fucking howled at how cool Summer was when Seth and Anna dropped the bomb. Anna may have won the battle, but Summer is so gonna win the war. There’s no way she’s going to let this happen to her. Now it’s a matter of pride.

+ Golden Girls, baby!

+The less said about the make-up, the better.

+ Ryan and Seth at the breakfast table. Oh, the cute. Yes, that’s all I have to say about that.


Overall

+ This episode wasn’t particularly moving or anything, in fact, it was only average. However, an average OC episode is still better than the best of most of the shit out there. I give it three skateboards, with an extra half a deck because Ryan was reading The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay.


Next week:

Anna wears my grandma’s nightgown! Ryan gets jealous! Marissa gets skinnier! Oliver has Tourettes! – or something. Jimmy loses all his brownie points by punking out! Lady Deathstrike gets a haircut! Kirsten and Lady Deathstrike agree on something! Newport Beach falls into the Pacific Ocean!

Also. I have some speculative thoughts about the whole Haley/Jimmy thing...

This is going to sounds very Dynasty of me, but I keep thinking Haley wants what Kirsten has. Jimmy wants money. Haley wants money, too. Does anybody else see a serious opening for them to get involved and perhaps get married somewhere along the line? How crazy would that drive Kirsten and Lady Deathstrike? Wouldn’t that be the best ‘Fuck You’ ever? I heart this show.

Date: 2004-01-08 10:17 am (UTC)
thornsilver: (samhain by lanning)
From: [personal profile] thornsilver
"Lady Deathstrike". Yes!

Date: 2004-01-08 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
I hated Summer's hair too. They really need to stop making her look like Barbarella meets Mary Tyler Moore.

Golden Girls rock.

Dude, you cannot have bagels and cream cheese without lox.

we've discussed this, but it can be said again: Word. And Sandy's from the Bronx, maybe he's just convinced you can't get good lox in CA? Except then you'd think he'd snub the bagels, too.

I’m at the point where I’m not sure what to make of Oliver. I don’t love him; I don’t hate him; I’m just waiting to see where they take him.

I definitely still don't like Oliver. He may be crazy, but he can still be a jerk. And a stalker. He's just creeptastic.

I loved Seth's wardrobe, but could have done without all the other 80's refs hammered into our heads. The 80's are in! We get it!

Also note: I have *two* Ryan icons now. Sarah hooks me up.

Date: 2004-01-08 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I hated Summer's hair too. They really need to stop making her look like Barbarella meets Mary Tyler Moore.

Actually, I didn't hate the hair. I quite liked it, but I can see how a lot of people were like WTF!

[tinhat] There's some Golden Girls love in TA. Just saying [/tinhat]

There's good lox out here, you just have to give blood to afford it, which means Sandy really should be all stocked up. Also, now I want some. You are eve-ville! As for Oliver, you know, he's clearly the guy on the outside looking in, but to me, he makes me think of how Ryan or Seth might've ended up with more money or parents who weren't into "parenting, dammit!"

Date: 2004-01-08 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
[tinhat] There's some Golden Girls love in TA. Just saying [/tinhat]

I know! There was squeeing at that last night. I'm right there with you on the tinhat thing this time.

Date: 2004-01-08 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunglegirl.livejournal.com
I didn't hate Summer's hair either. But I hated it for her. The way she was dressed/styled was not in keeping with her character at all. Humph.

Date: 2004-01-08 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stphjay.livejournal.com
It was very hard core New Yorker of Sandy not to toast the bagel before he ate it. New Yorkers have this snob thing where they think toasting a bagel means it's old and or stale. Which must also mean that the O.C. has a good bagel hookup. tasty.

Date: 2004-01-08 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
I noticed that he didn't toast it too! I'm not a New Yorker, but I have to agree. If a bagel is fresh it doesn't need to be toasted. *nods*

Sometimes I think I was raised in the wrong city.

Date: 2004-01-09 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stphjay.livejournal.com
oooh, well, i'm not a technical New Yorker, i've just been in school here for four years...but i like mine toasted. the cream cheese gets melty ^_^

Date: 2004-01-08 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelita.livejournal.com
Marissa gets skinnier!

*blinks* Does that mean she'll just disappear?

Date: 2004-01-08 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Here's hoping!

Date: 2004-01-08 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altricial.livejournal.com
Marissa gets skinnier!

:O

Date: 2004-01-08 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
*stares at your icon and giggles madly*

Date: 2004-01-08 09:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-01-08 11:33 am (UTC)
ext_2541: (anya_glam)
From: [identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com
hee.

I know, Sandy did such a good job. Plus... 'four square was happening, it gets my bloood up.' Whee!

I still get a little weirded out that I have the same name as one of the characters. It still makes me glance around and wonder who's talking to me. :)


And yeah- Ryan=whipped.

Date: 2004-01-08 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
*laughs*

Word.

Date: 2004-01-08 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happyminion.livejournal.com
Well if you didn’t you could always ask Luke. I think he knows it better than anyone, now that he’s become Josh’s Pete Ross. What is it about screenwriters that they think it’s a good idea to have their actors screaming like teenyboppers? I mean it wasn’t like Rooney’s name wasn’t plastered all over the entire fucking episode anyway.

Awww, don't crack on Josh! Unlike Pete's placement which was just *lame*, I think the point of Luke screaming out Rooney was to show that contrary to his carefully constructed facade, he is the least cool and hip of any of them. I mean, just showing him doing that beside the utterly *mortified* Seth was my cue that this wasn't Josh using lame placements. I mean, Clark just grinned when Pete pulled that shit, which screams placement! But to have Seth looking at him like oh. my. god, I must get away from this freak before I die of mortification tells me that we were supposed to be laughing at the utter uncoolness of Luke, who, bless his stupid heart, would've been much more at home at an Avril concert, yes? *snicker*

The less said about the make-up, the better.

Seriously. I'm the epitome of uncool and unhip, but jesus christ, who is doing that blush thing to those girls? Or that eye makeup? *shudder*

And you know, for me the gay vibe has been gone for quite some time from the Seth/Ryan interaction, but last night, I saw that little weird triangle reappear in the teaser, and lo--it was good. So nice to see them at least plotting out hetero-lifemate for the boys if they're going to have them play straight.

I continue to be crushing on Sandy. And Sandy and Kirsten. I cannot believe I love the parents on a show as much as the kids. Spastic, delicious show!!!!!


Date: 2004-01-08 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Awww, don't crack on Josh! Unlike Pete's placement which was just *lame*, I think the point of Luke screaming out Rooney was to show that contrary to his carefully constructed facade, he is the least cool and hip of any of them. I mean, just showing him doing that beside the utterly *mortified* Seth was my cue that this wasn't Josh using lame placements. I mean, Clark just grinned when Pete pulled that shit, which screams placement! But to have Seth looking at him like oh. my. god, I must get away from this freak before I die of mortification tells me that we were supposed to be laughing at the utter uncoolness of Luke, who, bless his stupid heart, would've been much more at home at an Avril concert, yes? *snicker*

I would never hate on Josh, but that doesn't mean I won't poke him and be snarky to him. True adoration has to have two way street where you can tell somebody they're wearing a hideous shirt, but you'll go out with them anyway. That's how I feel about Josh. I'm going to call him out when I think he's being over the top, but that doesn't diminish my respect for him at all. He writes being a teenager very well, but that doesn't mean that I have to like everything he says and does. It certainly doesn't mean that I can't wince and say 'Fucking hell, must you really do this?'


And you know, for me the gay vibe has been gone for quite some time from the Seth/Ryan interaction, but last night, I saw that little weird triangle reappear in the teaser, and lo--it was good. So nice to see them at least plotting out hetero-lifemate for the boys if they're going to have them play straight.

I think, for me, the gay vibe on the O.C. is being fully integrated with the het stuff so that it's not as obvious as it was in the beginning. You can pick and chose what you like, but you have to admit that they're both there. Sometimes the HoYay is more blantant, sometimes it's just a split second where someone looks a little too long. If we have to work for it, that's fine by me, I adore the show all the same.

[sidebar] Now I want to write a gen piece called Hetero-Lifemate, you're mixing up my priorities, stop that. [/sidebar]

Sandy & Kirsten rock.

Date: 2004-01-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happyminion.livejournal.com
I'm going to call him out when I think he's being over the top, but that doesn't diminish my respect for him at all. He writes being a teenager very well, but that doesn't mean that I have to like everything he says and does. It certainly doesn't mean that I can't wince and say 'Fucking hell, must you really do this?'

Not at all saying you should! See, Al and Miles are my Josh, so I totally get what you're saying. I'm just pointing out that to me, it didn't seem like he was doing product placement at all, but riffing on the people who *do* lame shit like that--either on shows, or IRL, at concerts. Because there is nothing like having the Ultimate Dork look at you like you are THE ultimate dork. It remains a priceless moment in the episode to me because of Seth's smeary face of horror.

You can pick and chose what you like, but you have to admit that they're both there.

See, no. Not at all, to me. There were quite a few eps when I didn't see it at all and was actually mourning it. The great thing about The O.C. is that they don't give you time to bitch about anything, they keep you entertained thoroughly with the rest of the episode so that you forget that you felt like something was missing, to begin with. I love this show because it just doesn't let you go while it's on, and it still lingers in a happy light the next day. Rare thing for scripted television, these days.

You *should* write Hetero-Lifemate! It would incorporate the happy of both the slashy and the het worlds! I am The Enabler, and you write good crack, yo.

Date: 2004-01-08 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
See, no. Not at all, to me. There were quite a few eps when I didn't see it at all and was actually mourning it. The great thing about The O.C. is that they don't give you time to bitch about anything, they keep you entertained thoroughly with the rest of the episode so that you forget that you felt like something was missing, to begin with. I love this show because it just doesn't let you go while it's on, and it still lingers in a happy light the next day. Rare thing for scripted television, these days.

See, I didn't have that at all. There were times when it wasn't quite as blatant as Seth needing to sit down because he'd found out that Ryan was The Big Stud or jumping all over Ryan's bed like a fish out of water, but there were always the little things that made me go 'Uh, huh. I see you, Josh, trying to be coy.' I suppose that even when it wasn't terribly obvious I was never afraid that it was gone for good, after all they live together. That all is enough fodder for *years*.

Date: 2004-01-08 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
*shifty eyes*

Actually, I um...sort of forgot to watch last night.

I haven't turned on a TV in weeks! It's not my fault!

It's 60% downloaded right now so yay.

And Seth looks like Jules?!? Slick. I'm a giant huge fan of the desperately-needs-a-shower/haircut/East Village look.

Hmmm, now to use Seth/Captain Oats icon, or one of fifteen Strokes icons?

Date: 2004-01-08 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
You didn't see it? Oh, Mar. Well, from a full detached POV I have to say that if you were going to miss any episode, better this one than say... the Chrismukkah one. I didn't say that Seth *looked* like Jules, but he did have that clothing issue... you'll see.

Also, music-wise, what are your thoughts on Aqualung? Black Eyes? Matthew Ryan? Kanye West?

Date: 2004-01-08 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
Download currently at 75%. I will not miss it.

I <3 Jules wardrobe, so yay. Seth is too California to pull it off though. I will laugh at him.

Aqualung is completely brilliant and gets points for choosing a name that makes me think of Jethro Tull. Matt Hales so v. boring. Aqualung is mysterious. Black Eyes too loud for my old ears. Matthew Ryan is a cross between Ryan Adams and Bob Dylan and as I am a fan of neither of them, sadly, Matthew never got more than a third listen from me.

Who is Kayne West?

Date: 2004-01-08 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I don't like Bob Dylan. I'm sure there are people who would shoot me for saying that, but whatever. I've tried some Matthew Ryan, but the jury is still out. If Black Eyes are too loud for *you* there's no way they're gonna wash with me. I quite like Aqualung too. Kanye West is the new Jay-Z/Nas/Talib Kweli. If you like that sort of stuff. Of cousre there are people who would shoot me for putting Nas and Jay-Z in the same sentence, so I'm really being risk with my life today. Huh.

Date: 2004-01-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
I absolutely loathe Bob Dylan, so they can shoot me first. I mean, I desperately love folk music, and I've been known to change my mind about music v. quickly (see re: White Stripes and Tom Waits) but Bob Dylan is just this really horrible acquired taste and I don't want to acquire it.

I wouldn't write off Black Eyes, they ARE really good, but I'm listening to extremely mellow stuff lately and my judgement is clouded.

Who are Jay-Z/Nas/etc?

...

Okay, I am only sort of kidding about that sentence. I know they're hip-hop or rap or whatever, but I've never heard them because I limit my intake of that stuff to Snoop and Eminem. And Beastie Boys who don't really count because they sort of transcend label. And RunDMC, who are too infinitely cool to associate with any of this new stuff. And sometimes NWA if I'm really mad. But that's it. :D

Hey look, comment appropriate icon. Go me!

Download at 83%.

Also, iTunes just started playing Ryan Adams. I blame you.

Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't comment often, but I read all your OC stuff obsessively, and I came over here just to tell you about Kavalier and Clay making an appearance last night. But of course, you already knew! And there was also a brick wall kiss last night, which made me give a little Telegraph Ave cheer. I pretended it was Seth he was kissing.

Maud

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Josh is making everyone I know into these enormous tinhats. Goonies! Kavalier and Clay! Brick walls and the Golden Girls! *shakes head* Yet another reason to adore him I suppose.

The day that Ryan Gosling shows up I'm going out and buying a shirt that says "Josh Stole My Brain" or "Welcome to my Planet, Bitch" or something equally pithy and snarky.

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
Dude, you *know* you have a little inner squee everytime something like that shows up.

I screamed when Everwood made an Officer and a Gentleman reference. My tinhat is fastened on firmly and I still maintain it was a shoutout.

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Dude, you *know* you have a little inner squee everytime something like that shows up.

A *little* inner squee? Dude, I pretty much shout the house down, especially when my friends call/e-mail and are all "so, what's up with your man, Josh?"

I'm waiting for Matt Nathanson to show up. Seriously. I know I mentioned Rooney in 'The Happiest Place on Earth' back in the day, but if Matt shows up I'm... I'm not sure what I'll do, but you'll probably hear me shrieking about it.

I need a nerd icon, don't I?

And I'm going to pretend. Really really pretend that you didn't ask me who Jay-Z and Nas are. It's not like I asked you about some no-talent-Cracker-Jack-rappers like Fabolous or Chingy. I asked you about people with *skillz*. People who are all over the place.

It's Jay Fucking Z.

Next you'll wonder who Biggie Smalls is and I will cry.

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
Zahra and Joshy sitting in a tree, doing something that has seven letters and ends in I-N-G!

(This is why I have not broken into the music industry. No lyrics well from within me.)

What sort of nerd icon? I'm about to open Photoshop. Requests?

Look, I don't follow the popular musical culture. Let's check Billboard's top singles chart...

http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/hot100.jsp

I have heard *one* song on that list of 50. #50 itself actually, because I like Maroon 5 (I saw them this summer! V. good.)

And looking over it...I've only heard OF about 20 people on there.

*adjusts vainglorious indie rock queen tiara*

I boycott all radio, unless it's a snotty internet based station. I find most of my new stuff via Indie Pop Rocks, Under the Radar, the Voice, Pitchfork, [livejournal.com profile] frippy and my cousin josh.

This is why I'm a complete musical dunce in your world. :D

Biggie Smalls was the dude who capped Tupac, right?

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
What sort of nerd icon? I'm about to open Photoshop. Requests?

Nerd. Geek. Dork. Seth. Cookie Monster. Oscar the Grouch. Pick one, mix and match.

Look, I don't follow the popular musical culture. Let's check Billboard's top singles chart...

http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/hot100.jsp

I have heard *one* song on that list of 50. #50 itself actually, because I like Maroon 5 (I saw them this summer! V. good.)


Point of fact, most popular music is shit. Out of the top 50, I've heard of 44, I like five (Matchbox 20's on their twice and I really like 'Bright Lights.' Kanye West is on there too, as is the Alicia Keys song that I only like because Mos Def is in the video)...13 make my ears bleed and Baby Jesus cries. I don't listen to the radio, but I have three different kinds of VH1 and MTV on my digital cable and I like watching videos while I cook, clean, read... Also my musical world is rather vast, so no, I don't think you're a dunce, you just have specializations.

As for this:

Biggie Smalls was the dude who capped Tupac, right?

I will pretend you are being funny.

Re: Kavalier and Clay!

Date: 2004-01-08 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
Photoshop refused to open, but the next time I manage to make it work you will definitely get a nerd icon.

I understand the videos thing, because I'm a video junkie as well. But we don't have the cable so I just buy DVDs of bands I like. Which of course only serves to keep me in my specialised little world. ;)

I think my musical interests are pretty vast, they just don't include recent popular stuff for some reason, it's really odd. Past popular stuff though? My God. *sits on a large pile of vinyl and hisses like Gollum*

As for Biggie and Tupac, let us not get into the whole East Coast/West Coast thing, because we're both on the West Coast and it seems really silly. :D

Date: 2004-01-09 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stphjay.livejournal.com
yo, your icon. heh. i used to watch blue's clues JUST to see Steve. he was the hottest thing in stripes, anywhere. : )

Date: 2004-01-08 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sundaysunday.livejournal.com
Okay! I have finally watched it.

I dunno, it was an okay episode. I am a big fan of Seth/Ryan time but you KNOW how I feel about Anna so I'm all meh over that part. Luke is a huge tool, but gratifying to know the popular jock is actually a giant dork.

Seth Cohen in dress shirt, tie and Chucks is like ungh. It didn't really suit him for some reason (more UO tees please!) but I liked it all the same.

<3 Sandy.

And my head still hurts from that GARGANTUAN ANVIL THAT DROPPED ON MY HEAD during the last scene with Oliver. Now I think that Oliver is very cute, but a schemey little turd and I'm not impressed.

Also have you ever noticed that people named Oliver on TV shows are generally buttheads?

Witness The OC's Oliver. Dawson's Creek's Oliver. The Power Ranger Tommy OLIVER.

And let us not forget the Brady Bunch's COUSIN OLIVER, who was a sucky little brat.

And also, there is Oliver Platt, who, while not a TV character, is quite lame.

But that is my opinion, of course.

Date: 2004-01-09 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I don't know any of those Oliver's you mentioned, but I like Oliver Platt, he makes me laugh. Don't hate!

Date: 2004-01-08 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] folk.livejournal.com
On the plus side in Hair Wars: The OC Strikes Back, they sorted out Kirsten's hair which made the Rob Lowe Lookalike jawline she's been sporting in the last few eps recede. Thank god.

Date: 2004-01-09 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com
I only like Evil Carebears, and if I could draw, I would make a whole indy comic out of them.

even if I have carebears socks with pompoms on them. that are pink. !!! they were right next to the Strawberry shortcake ones at Target, OK?

I love Jimmy. I really can't help it. I think I've got some sort of older man thing going on right now. It's scary and wrong.

Haley still sucks. She needs to grow more of a personality, even if to be honest, we would so be her if we had the money. Drug smuggling? Come on.

Date: 2004-01-09 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I only like Evil Carebears, and if I could draw, I would make a whole indy comic out of them.

I was reading Boondocks last night and totally wishing my drawing skills were better. I fucking *love* Boondocks. Also, why am I not surprised at you and the Evil!Carebears. Maybe I will buy you a shirt and put horns on'em.

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