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It’s a vicious circle of... tag:
I say this; [livejournal.com profile] lalejandra writes this.
She says something else... I write this.

Unbeta’d dysfunctional story alert.

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More Times Than the Milkman


“We’re all great friends...We’d do anything for each other.”
-Billy Boyd, USA Today, Tuesday, March 02, 2004



Prologue

"I’m not going through this again," he said.

"It’s not like last time."

He flinched when Dominic tried to touch him.

“It’s always like last time, Dom.





They’re on the motorway to the Oscars when he sees the bruises for the first time in ages. Maybe this is what he gets for leaving Dom alone in the States, but it’s all Billy can do not to toss Elijah out the moving car or send Dominic into the front seat along side the driver.

The bruises aren’t even that noticeable as long as Dom keeps his sleeves down, but this is Dom. All he does is move about like a three year-old running loose at Tesco's, and someone is going to notice. Someone already has.

Do they really think that he can’t tell?

Do they really think that he doesn’t know that it’s started all over again?

If they want his attention so badly, can't they just ask for it like everyone else?

He won’t go through this twice. If Elijah and Dom want to get into this sort of twisted power game slash mind-fuck, again, then that’s all them. If Dom wants someone to tell him what to do; if Elijah wants to be that person – well, he won't be coming around for tea. Ta very much.

He’ll send them something from Habitat when he gets home.

This is what kept him from coming to California in the first place. He knew that Dom and Elijah, together, was an accident of epic proportions. Billy knew that they would just fuck themselves up like this all over again. And he’s not wrong. They’re not pear-shaped; they’re completely out of fucking order.

Billy wants to rattle Elijah until the blue scales fall from his eyes, and he looks more human. He wants to drag Dominic home by his entirely too blonde hair and remind him where he comes from, and why this just isn’t on at all.

But Billy won’t say anything.

He can just imagine the headlines if they got into an accident because he’s started a row:

Hobbits Killed Before Oscars
Never had a chance to see sweeping win


Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin Swallowed by Mount Doom

Hobbits killed in massive Oscar pileup


*



It’s the bruises that put Billy off the most. He knows why they’re there, and he knows who put them there, and he’s not going to just go along with it all and pretend that everything’s fine when he knows it’s not.

He’s been here with Dom before.

He's had Dominic in his bed, begging for something he can't define; and Dom's pretty when he's in pain, perhaps, but Billy. Billy knows better. He's already been around this block before. He won’t do it twice. Yes, he adores Dom. In fact, he loves him more than he can say -- but he's just not into hurting people he loves. Billy's already had enough of that in his life; he's got no truck with doing this just for kicks.

And if that means that he can't be around Dom at the Oscars or the aftershows or anywhere anymore, then so be it.

He can tell by the look on Sean's face that he knows what's going through Billy's mind, and maybe he'll just go back to the hotel and be with Ali, because being around Dom and Elijah right now is enough to make him ill.

As far as he’s concerned it doesn't really matter that Dom came to him first.


*



I’m not trying to hurt myself.

Then what would you call it. *Look* at your wrists, Dom.

I’m just – it’s nice to feel alive is all.

And I just don’t do that for you, is that it?

That’s not what I meant at all.



*



The first time Dom asked Billy to tie his hands together, Billy thought it was a bit of a lark. He figured that it would be a bit of a one-off and then they would go back to shagging on the kitchen floor or in the bath or even against the boot of Orlando’s car. But it was just the start of a decent that Billy had no desire to take. The Mines of Moria in the head of Dominic Monaghan weren’t really what he’d signed on for, and sometimes he wonders if Elijah was lurking about just waiting for him to decide he didn’t have the stomach for what Dom wanted.

Because it’s not that Billy doesn’t want Dom, or even that he doesn’t love him, but he just doesn’t understand what Dom gets out of the bruises and all the pain. Isn’t life hard enough anyway?


*



”I can’t be with you when you’re like this.”

“You’re having me on.”

“No, I’m not.”

“You’re just going to leave me then?”

“It’s clear I can’t give you what you want.”

“Bill – Bills, we can work it out.”

“Not if you don’t love yourself as much as I already do.”



*



The only thing worse than realising you're broken -- is realising that maybe you weren’t even that together in the first place, and every time Billy sees Dom fawning all over Elijah, it’s all he can do not to be violently sick.

He gave Dom everything he had and it still wasn’t enough. He knows that it’s not his place to worry about Dom anymore, but the pictures he’s seen speak for themselves, and he’s always going to worry that something’s going to go wrong.

It’s all well and good for Elijah to exercise and become fit, but he’s not old enough to really know what he’s doing, and if he hurts Dom, well, that would be even worse. And maybe, if this is really what Dom wants, then shouldn’t Billy give it to him -- as a friend? Maybe Billy actually wants to give it to him but’s too afraid what that might say about him after all.

If he’s been around this block before, then shouldn’t he have learned something by now?


-end-

Note: I believe everybody’s already seen this image.

Date: 2004-03-03 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] random-flores.livejournal.com
You realize you destroy me with these, right?

You're amazing. :-)

Date: 2004-03-04 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
You're reading these? *goggles* I had no idea! I mean I know you said you were, but, like, really? Wow.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] random-flores.livejournal.com
Yes. Only because it's you, and it still squicks me slightly, but you're just sodamned talented I find myself clicking on that link everytime you post it.

*sigh* You're so very good, darling.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] normalone.livejournal.com
this picture (from the Hildago premiere) was in my head the whole time I was reading this. Beautiful work!

Image

Date: 2004-03-04 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lugonn.livejournal.com
Great copmanion pic to the Oscar one where Elijah is staring at Dom. And the marks are even clearer here. And don't even get me started on the ponies. :)

Date: 2004-03-04 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] normalone.livejournal.com
it just works on so many levels :)

Date: 2004-03-05 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] el-erzulie.livejournal.com
:O They're so VIVID there.

This was just brilliant, but I wish it hadn't ended there. I was so sucked in! So very sad. :(

Thank you

Date: 2004-03-03 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bea-in-a-bonnet.livejournal.com
wow, that was so good

*All he does is move about like a three year-old running loose at Tesco's* I can't stop smiling at this!

Re: Thank you

Date: 2004-03-04 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
*All he does is move about like a three year-old running loose at Tesco's* I can't stop smiling at this!

That's pretty much what I think of when I think of Dom, he just seems very active. The sort who are always moving, even when they're sitting still.

Date: 2004-03-03 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shards-of-fire.livejournal.com
Wow. *deep breaths*
That hurts. In the most delicious sort of way. I like that it's Billy's POV, not one of the people in the relationship it focuses on. And yet he's still involved, because there's that history.

The little conversations in between the more text bits gave me chills.

He knew that Dom and Elijah, together, was an accident of epic proportions. Billy knew that they would just fuck themselves up like this all over again. And he’s not wrong. They’re not pear-shaped; they’re completely out of fucking order.
I love that part. So much. So rarely are there pieces written that see things so clearly like this, without the tangled up bits from the inside. And the majority of fics that deal with stuff like this don't make it out to be fucked up. They make it out to be that that's how it's perceived, but really the men involved like it and it's all tea, sex, and roses. There's just so much that doesn't feel very realistic.

This whole piece just feels truthful, passionate, honest, and clear. It was a wonderful read.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I love that part. So much. So rarely are there pieces written that see things so clearly like this, without the tangled up bits from the inside. And the majority of fics that deal with stuff like this don't make it out to be fucked up. They make it out to be that that's how it's perceived, but really the men involved like it and it's all tea, sex, and roses. There's just so much that doesn't feel very realistic.

I've never been able to understand that sort of self-delusion. If something you're doing is fucked up, chances are you know it's fucked up. It may be a subconscious realization or what have you, but you know *somewhere* that this is not quite kosher, otherwise you'd be telling everyone and their nan about it. Most relationships aren't tea and roses even without the fucked-up-ness, so I don't tell to be about glossing things over.

Date: 2004-03-03 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillybinks.livejournal.com
“Not if you don’t love yourself as much as I already do.”

That line just killed me. Well done!

Date: 2004-03-04 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I'm so pleased you enjoyed this, thanks!

Date: 2004-03-03 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-larch.livejournal.com
Yeah, I love you. Can I just say I love you? And I loved this. It is amazing how often you make my day.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
It is amazing how often you make my day.

What a lovely thing to say, now you've totally made *my* day.

Date: 2004-03-03 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bungee.livejournal.com
Oh wow. *Breathe.*

Short and powerful, and jeez, talk about a mind-fuck.

The only thing worse than realizing your broken, is realizing that maybe you weren’t even that together in the first place, and every time Billy sees Dom fawning all over Elijah, it’s all he can do not to be violently sick.

If I were to quote all of my favorite lines from this, I'd end up quoting the whole story, but this was probably the one I related to the most. I think most people can identify with that feeling, have felt that at some time or another, and you described it so perfectly.

Excellent. Just what these pictures needed.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
The only thing worse than realizing your broken, is realizing that maybe you weren’t even that together in the first place, and every time Billy sees Dom fawning all over Elijah, it’s all he can do not to be violently sick.

If I were to quote all of my favorite lines from this, I'd end up quoting the whole story, but this was probably the one I related to the most. I think most people can identify with that feeling, have felt that at some time or another, and you described it so perfectly.


I'm pretty fond of that line myself, and I'm so pleased you enjoyed this. Thank you for commenting!

Date: 2004-03-03 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moody-girl.livejournal.com
OH
MY
GOD

Just... on so many levels it was just... really really good. Thank you so much for this! This was just brilliant.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.

Date: 2004-03-03 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
uuuunnnnnhhhhhh


That was the sound of my brain on this story. Jaysus Mary and Joseph.

The Mines of Moria in the head of Dominic Monaghan weren’t really what he’d signed on for

Love.


Um. Tag. I'm it? I wondered through all of this what Elijah was really thinking...

Date: 2004-03-04 01:28 pm (UTC)
ext_9990: (Default)
From: [identity profile] belladonnalin.livejournal.com
*raises hand* me too.

would LOVE to see that.

Date: 2004-03-04 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
I did end up writing it last night:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lalejandra/34077.html#cutid1

Not quite the same world, but the same themes.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I came in this morning all ready to do my bit, because Dom was ready. He was all set... to talk about working with Ian Somerhalder. Talk about being blindsided.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
But you know what? WOW. That's all I have to say about that.

I am, o'course, looking forward to the other... stuff. :)

Date: 2004-03-03 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serialkarma.livejournal.com
Oh, this is just excellent, sweetie.

He's had Dominic in his bed, begging for something he can't define; and Dom's pretty when he's in pain, perhaps, but Billy. Billy knows better. He's already been around this block before.

Lovely.

And maybe, if this is really what Dom wants, then shouldn’t Billy give it to him -- as a friend? Maybe Billy actually wants to give it to him but’s too afraid what that might say about him after all.

If he’s been around this block before, then shouldn’t he have learned something by now?


I really wasn't expecting to be taken to the place Billy ends up--I love it when that happens.

Also, your headlines made me laugh and laugh. Have I ever mentioned that one of my favorite things about your writing is your ability to mingle humor with pathos and have them do it so organically? Because it is.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Also, your headlines made me laugh and laugh. Have I ever mentioned that one of my favorite things about your writing is your ability to mingle humor with pathos and have them do it so organically? Because it is.

Have I ever told you how happy praise from you makes me? Because it does, like, a lot. *rolls around in praise*

Date: 2004-03-03 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfect-oasis.livejournal.com
Ooh, that's powerful. And, of course, brilliant!

Aww.... just... aww!

I wish I could say more, but I'm in awe.

Brilliant!

Date: 2004-03-04 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
You say the nicest things. I'm so pleased you enjoyed this, thanks!

Date: 2004-03-03 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annakovsky.livejournal.com
Because it’s not that Billy doesn’t want Dom, or even that he doesn’t love him, but he just doesn’t understand what Dom gets out of the bruises and all the pain. Isn’t life hard enough anyway?

Ow. This is all so good - the longing and the puzzlement and the sheer fucked-up-ness of it... it kills me.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Ow. This is all so good - the longing and the puzzlement and the sheer fucked-up-ness of it... it kills me.

Yes, I am all about the fucked-up-ness.

Date: 2004-03-04 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvestra.livejournal.com
-adds to memories-

God, I love angst.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stellahobbit.livejournal.com
I'm with you babe - fabulous fic!

Date: 2004-03-04 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lugonn.livejournal.com
Perfect Billy POV for the apparent situation. And sure, I might need more than one pair of shoes (fandoms) but I already have about 3, that is enough shoes or fandoms for anyone, right? Or maybe that is more of a boy thing. :)

Date: 2004-03-04 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
And sure, I might need more than one pair of shoes (fandoms) but I already have about 3, that is enough shoes or fandoms for anyone, right? Or maybe that is more of a boy thing. :)

Nonsense, one can never have too many fandoms (hides several behind her back) they're versitle.

Date: 2004-03-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
Mmmmm.... loved it.
One thing: The only thing worse than realizing your broken, is realizing that maybe you weren’t even that together in the first place, and every time Billy sees Dom fawning all over Elijah, it’s all he can do not to be violently sick.
Should be "you're," not "your." I'm sorry, I can't help it! *shuts up now*

Date: 2004-03-04 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
*laughs*

It's always something, especially when I run around posting without consulting my betas first.

Date: 2004-03-04 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
By the way, if you need a beta, I'm up for it.

Date: 2004-03-04 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] circe-tigana.livejournal.com
oh, wow.

After reading this fic I had to do three things:

1) Reread it.

2) Friend you because I can't bear to miss more of your work (which I've loved for a while)

3) Check to see if you were British, because dude, not enough people mention Tesco in their Lotrips :)

Loving this game of tag.

Date: 2004-03-08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
*laughs* I'm so pleased you enjoyed this so much, thanks!

Date: 2004-03-05 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com
Maybe this is what he gets for leaving Dom alone in the States, but it’s all Billy can do not to toss Elijah out the moving car or send Dominic into the front seat along side the driver.

I think you really see into their dynamic when you write Billy around these two. I mean, he comes off as sweetness and light, funny and kind, and it's always those people who have to clean up the messes and deal with the bullshit of all the immature people they know. Poor Billy.

This is what kept him from coming to California in the first place. He knew that Dom and Elijah, together, was an accident of epic proportions. Billy knew that they would just fuck themselves up like this all over again. And he’s not wrong. They’re not pear-shaped; they’re completely out of fucking order.

exactly! this is a fucking cracking passage, and so very on.

The headlines are brill. BRILL! I love that sort of stuff.

Billy's already had enough of that in his life; he's got no truck with doing this just for kicks.

The bit before this, and then this. Holy hell! I think this might be the first realistic rebuttal to sm or any of that stuff I've ever seen in a fic. rock the fuck on.

As far as he’s concerned it doesn't really matter that Dom came to him first.


!!! What the fuck is this? This is you kicking lotrips ass all the way back to Scotland.

But it was just the start of a decent that Billy had no desire to take. The Mines of Moria in the head of Dominic Monaghan weren’t really what he’d signed on for, and sometimes he wonders if Elijah was lurking about just waiting for him to decide he didn’t have the stomach for what Dom wanted.


1) Like I said before, I don't think I've ever read anything where someone was all 'uh, no, not my kink, check ya later'. but since *I* know there are lots of people who feel that way in RL, and i think Billy is exactly that sort of person, I am just peeing all over myself that you wrote this. This is like an answer-back diss track to all the fic that assumes that everyone is just waiting to be tied to a bed post.

2) The way you drop all the little allusions to the movies through out your lotrips is fantastic. I'm not sure that I've ever seen anyone do *that* either.

3) The Elijah lurking thing is fucking ON. And I really like how billy is trying to be a good person, but he can't really help blaming Elijah, even if they are friends. Lovely, lovely work, me darlin'.

The only thing worse than realizing you're broken -- is realizing that maybe you weren’t even that together in the first place, and every time Billy sees Dom fawning all over Elijah, it’s all he can do not to be violently sick.


DUDE. I mean, seriously, DUDE. What are you trying to do to me? Here I am with my coffee, about to run off and cry. Damn your black heart and Dom's serious issues.



Date: 2004-03-08 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
1) Like I said before, I don't think I've ever read anything where someone was all 'uh, no, not my kink, check ya later'. but since *I* know there are lots of people who feel that way in RL, and i think Billy is exactly that sort of person, I am just peeing all over myself that you wrote this. This is like an answer-back diss track to all the fic that assumes that everyone is just waiting to be tied to a bed post.

'Answer-back diss.' Marshall, is that you?


2) The way you drop all the little allusions to the movies through out your lotrips is fantastic. I'm not sure that I've ever seen anyone do *that* either.

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to, but I'm glad you like it.


3) The Elijah lurking thing is fucking ON. And I really like how billy is trying to be a good person, but he can't really help blaming Elijah, even if they are friends. Lovely, lovely work, me darlin'.

Fictional!Elijah is a parasite. That was cold, huh? I'm tempted to write something about Elijah's leech tendencies, but also, you know, he's young and that tends to equal stupid, so I shouldn't be as harsh as I am, but that's why it's called fiction.


DUDE. I mean, seriously, DUDE. What are you trying to do to me? Here I am with my coffee, about to run off and cry. Damn your black heart and Dom's serious issues.

I like my Dom. He's almost my new Lex. Except nobody is Lex.
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Date: 2004-03-08 03:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-03-13 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xbrokenglass.livejournal.com
Wow, that was just awesome. Your an amazing writer. I just read one of your other fics, so now I can't stop reading them, cause your absolutly(sp?) amazing.

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