I used to be such a nice person.
Feb. 21st, 2006 04:09 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
K pointed out that there's an anonymous meme going around where you can tell writers what you *really* think of their writing, which you know, hey, go ahead. Personally, I'm always getting abused anyway whether it's anonymous, or in sekrit (which really not sekrit at all), or to my face, so if you're feeling that need, knock yourself out. I didn't actually think anyone needed a *day* or some shit, but hey, I'll even start.
[Name here] is not a very good writer. Actually, she fucking sucks. Same stories, same characters, same characterization. I mean, damn, what happened to all the mass murder? Can you just get a new story or something? Also, you are so not all that. I don't know why people like your stories. Are you famous for sucking someone's cock or something? I could totally do better. And I spell better than you too. And, I make less typos. So there. Also, where the fuck is my chai latte? You are fucking fired.
-Ari
ETA: I adore you all madly for rushing to my aid, but I think what I just don't get about this exercise is the simple idea of if you don't like something, why the fuck are you reading it? Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to? I highly doubt that, so why go around being needlessly rude and cruel? That's just fucked up.
[Name here] is not a very good writer. Actually, she fucking sucks. Same stories, same characters, same characterization. I mean, damn, what happened to all the mass murder? Can you just get a new story or something? Also, you are so not all that. I don't know why people like your stories. Are you famous for sucking someone's cock or something? I could totally do better. And I spell better than you too. And, I make less typos. So there. Also, where the fuck is my chai latte? You are fucking fired.
-Ari
ETA: I adore you all madly for rushing to my aid, but I think what I just don't get about this exercise is the simple idea of if you don't like something, why the fuck are you reading it? Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to? I highly doubt that, so why go around being needlessly rude and cruel? That's just fucked up.
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:15 am (UTC)I dont know why Im so fucking irrationally irriteted by that meme but I so completely am and there you have it. is it so much to ask that I want people to use their name when they say something about my fic whether it be good or bad? I dont know. maybe Im just being a ginormous hor.
WHO KNOWS IT COULD HAPPEN.
*smooches you ALL UP*
♥
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:21 am (UTC)but all that to the side, hor or not you are complete and utterly RIGHT about people leaving their names. \o/ <3 \o?
(okay, i just loved that thing of yours and BLG and look! i've slashed emoticons!)
*is proud*
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:22 am (UTC)Either way, I don't think it'll work to tell you anything about your writing that you wouldn't know from having a good beta. It's a nice idea and all, but I don't think it works well in practice.
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:34 am (UTC)either their stories, on their daily life or both. why would they even BE here if i din't like their writing, you know? so how harsh could i be? ('and the way you use commas is LAME!)?
so if i were going to do this to someone whose writing i really DIDN'T like, i would have to make a special effort to find their journal and do it.
and to me, that's taking it out of the realm of criticism, and into that of vindictive bitchery
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:19 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:27 am (UTC)i love your stuff (that's why i friended you) i love your crack, i love your RPS, i even love all your music posts. ( found a lot of new stuff that way)
what i like best: how you can take the weirdest things ever (cruiseliner!) and even though everyone is doing things they probably wouldn't do, you make it sound like them anyway.
i mean, weirdly, you write BELIEVABLE crack!fic.
so yay! go team hack!
-doll
(signed it TWICE so you would know)
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:19 am (UTC)I admit my stories tend to lack plot unless they're stupendously long, and yes, okay, the Real Person Stuff is pungently cracked out, but you know, it's called entertainment. I'm not here to be J.D. Salinger; I just want to make people smile. Apparently, this is all wrong though. *shrugs* Whatcha gonna do?
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:32 am (UTC)PS, Jeremy Piven wins at life.
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:21 am (UTC)Ari is my god. He helps keep me sane. Are you watching Entourage, you should?
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:44 am (UTC)Because that simply does not make sense.
The only criticism I can come up with is "WHY IS THERE NOT MORE OF IT??"
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Date: 2006-02-22 12:44 am (UTC)I hope you take Pru up on her IM offer (and hey, totally the same offer for me; you're always welcome to IM), but she'd have much more to bond and vent about with you. *smiles*
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-22 12:54 am (UTC)I haven't participated in an anonymous meme in a year. I sleep better.
Sophia Bush denies she's dating (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/bush%20laughs%20off%20gyllenhaal%20romance_17_02_2006) either Jake or Austin. As well she should.
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:27 am (UTC)*Of course she's denying it! Because she knows they're dating each other!
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:02 am (UTC)*goes back to baking coffee cake*
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:49 am (UTC)And if you did the meme, you'd probably just get pestered to write more, like you're a writing machine!
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Date: 2006-02-22 01:56 am (UTC){{{{hugs}}}}
- because even if you don't need them right this second, they never really go amiss.
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Date: 2006-02-22 02:11 am (UTC)Look, I adore your writing and I've said so many times. However, if I didn't, I would not friend you. I wouldn't read you. I'd ignore all references to you. In short, there wouldn't be any dialogue between us because clearly enough people appreciate your writing and if I don't that's just between me and, well, me.
I have yet to understand why adopting an LJ name has become synomymous with "hey, I've got a ton of anger I have no place to unload, let's just trash other people for the sheer hell of it."
I do not understand wank. I do not understand this need by people to trash others, to their face or behind their back. There are arrow keys, people. Use them.
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Date: 2006-02-22 04:23 pm (UTC)That's pretty much been my take on the matter as well.
I have yet to understand why adopting an LJ name has become synomymous with "hey, I've got a ton of anger I have no place to unload, let's just trash other people for the sheer hell of it."
WORD! And, also, thank you for the all the kindness. Really. Sometimes it all just gets to be a bit much.
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Date: 2006-02-22 02:14 am (UTC):-)
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Date: 2006-02-22 03:14 am (UTC)Is there a difference, in your estimation, between sheer nastiness and criticism? I'm not even thinking concrit, necessarily, but the kind of "x didn't really work for me, because a, b, and c weren't really established in this story" kind of things. I've read many a story that I enjoyed for the most part, but had certain reservations about, be they character or plot or sensibility. Whether or not I tell the author about those reservations depend on a lot of things. If I don't find anything to like, I won't leave a word of feedback and probably won't finish the story. If I really liked it, I'll try to say why. But as an author, I find those who point out flaws to be very valuable, even if I don't always agree with them. If nothing else, I might have tried to gloss over something because I ddin't want to deal with it - if someone's honest enough to tell me they noticed, it gives me strategies for the next time.
There will always be haters. Learning when to ignore them and when to listen to them teaches me something else, about my own sense of self-worth and my acknowledgement of my failings.
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Date: 2006-02-22 03:37 am (UTC)omg, ari, really. Drama is your middle name. I have some eye crack for ya.
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Date: 2006-02-22 04:14 am (UTC)How many different accents happened there? I counted four.
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Date: 2006-02-22 08:10 am (UTC)in fact, by jumping in here, i'm attention whoring too.
*sits on your lap*
WHERE'Z MY HOT CHOCOLATE WITH MARSHMALLOWS BITCH?
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Date: 2006-02-22 04:17 pm (UTC)Okay, no more quoting Lewis Black.
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Date: 2006-02-22 10:35 am (UTC)Then again, anon always means that people will get bitchy.
Also, I'm bothered by the fact that I know this Ari feller from somewhere, just can't remember where from. His IMDB gives me no clues, either. Could you briefly explain his connection (in real life) to George Clooney?
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Date: 2006-02-22 04:31 pm (UTC)Alas, since Ari is a fictional character, he doesn't have a real connection to George apart from the the one I made, and fact that on his show, Entourage, he is an agent, and George, being in the business must have an agent. I decided therefor that Ari should be his agent.
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Date: 2006-02-22 11:34 am (UTC)I mean, why - WHY - would they be any more accurate or plausible than your best beta-ing friends, who shuffle their feet when they hate things? It's just - GAH. GAH, I tell you.
*goes off to lie down*
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Date: 2006-02-22 04:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-02-22 09:12 pm (UTC)I've been wondering that myself, since I found out that my lovely former friends still read my LJ and skewer/mock it as they see fit. A mutual friend had pointed me in the direction of their blogs, so I had checked it out once before, just to see what they were up to. On my part, I had given up all old grudges and was simply curious. Upon my return visit, seeing what they did was kind of a shock because I don't operate like that--if I don't like you, I may take five seconds out of my time to lambast you if you provoke me, but when I'm done it will be like it never happened. In the words of Stephen Colbert, you are dead to me.
Anyway, I happily return to my life before I knew their blog URLs. I doubt they will be able to say the same, and hey, whatever floats their boats. Same goes for you. I love your writing and if I don't comment on your fics its only because I don't feel I need to. Most of the people posting say what I feel and think. And, y'know, if I didn't like your writing I still wouldn't say anything. I'd just skip over the stories and go along my merry way. I think that to go out of your way to say hello, you are awful and btw I hate you and wish you were never born is dreadful, and very telling of a person's character.
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Date: 2006-02-24 12:54 am (UTC)Other people suck. I have nothing else for it, baby girl.
And, y'know, if I didn't like your writing I still wouldn't say anything. I'd just skip over the stories and go along my merry way. I think that to go out of your way to say hello, you are awful and btw I hate you and wish you were never born is dreadful, and very telling of a person's character.
It's like Thumper's mom told him, "If you can't say something nice, OMG, keep your freaking trap shut -- unless someone did something wrong to you then let them have it."
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Date: 2006-02-23 02:13 am (UTC)Then I read this post and immediately went back and signed the damn thing because I felt like an ass.
Way to make me feel all righteous and true.
Oh yeah: your shit's good. I love Ozymandias from like three fucking years ago. You know I like it because it's been so long and I've wiped out more brain cells than I had to begin with since then and I still remember the damn thing. I mean, shit, I still watched Smallville then.