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This weekend I saw The Queen, which you know, what can you say about Helen Mirren that hasn't already been said (awesome, awe-inspiring, holy-fucking-cow I thought it was a documentary, she was so brilliant, crap like that) and The Prestige.

Now, I had no expectations of The Prestige. None. Despite it being Chris Nolan and Michael Caine, and like other people -- because you know Scarlett Johannsen makes me gag, and Christian Bale may be Bruce, but holy fuck is he a scary one to look at. And well, damn.

Every now and then a movie comes along that towards the end you find yourself cocking your head to the side more and more until your head is at a 45 degree angle, and you're all '...the fuck?' Did they really just pull that off?'

Remember when you saw The Usual Supsects for the first time? Yeah, this is kind of like that. Not quite that shocking. I saw it coming, but still, it was very good.

So good that I yearn longingly for someone to write it for [livejournal.com profile] yuletide. Really. Don't make me go there on my own. Come talk to me about it in the comments if you've seen either one.

If you haven't, what are you waiting for? A goddamn invitation from the queen?!

Date: 2006-10-23 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com
I'm seeing it tomorrow, and am really looking forward to it (I just finished the book, which I'm given to understand is very very different). And, I already know someone that wants to write fic from it, so. *g*

Date: 2006-10-23 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Now I want to read the book, you know that right? Is the book v slashy, poppet?

Date: 2006-10-23 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antheia.livejournal.com
Yes, and no. Because of the way it's structured it could go either way. Seriously, pick it up. Apart from anything else, I loved it 'cos it's all set in my Dad's hometown area.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaney.livejournal.com
The Prestige has to be one of the best movies I've seen this year! :D

Date: 2006-10-23 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
It was much better than I'd though it would be. I confess.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:21 pm (UTC)
ext_2524: do what you like (batman)
From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
I was spoiled for The Prestige, insofar as I knew there was a "surprise" to figure out - but even so, I probably would have seen it coming; they were hardly subtle. So, while I felt a little bit underwhemled by the twist, the story was intriguing, the film was well-done technically, and the performances were superb. I really don't care for Christian Bale most times, but I really liked him in this role (dammit).

I'm really looking forward to the fic that may be generated from this one. :)

Date: 2006-10-23 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Ah, see I wasn't spoiled for it. It was more of a 'I'm here, might as well see this as well.' I knew there had to be something up since they never showed Fallon in a proper light and movies are all about the lighting, and yet I thought it was really clever. Not on the Usual Suspects level, but certainly smarter than pretty much anything else out there right now. I do wonder about the fic -- not that I would DARE write any of that wrong incesty stuff with sex in some dirty alley. No, never.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:44 pm (UTC)
ext_2524: do what you like (spn: boys b&w)
From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
Yeah... I definitely think the fact that Fallon was never shown clearly was part of it. Plus, there was Not!Scarlett's mention of the makeup/wigs, etc., and the reiteration over and over of how a great magician lives his act. I still really liked it, but generally, I don't guess the end of movies like this, so either I'm getting smarter or the movies just aren't as surprising.

God. What has Supernatural done to me that brothercest is A-OKAY?!

Date: 2006-10-23 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
God. What has Supernatural done to me that brothercest is A-OKAY?!

Why do you come here mentioning that that THING? Infidel! I was thinking maybe incest in that sort of creepy as tone of the film, but then some pick-a-brother and Danton in a dirty alley. Oh, yes.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Sanyin said it best (http://hackthis.livejournal.com/405824.html?thread=9901888#t9901888)

Date: 2006-10-23 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
Ahaha I don't even blink at brothercest now - OH KRIPKE. I mean, with the Bordens, it's almost like jacking off right. Right? *g*

I didn't really catch on, but in retrospect, I loved the little foreshadowing with the Chinese guy and the fishbowl. Very clever.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:52 pm (UTC)
ext_2524: do what you like (Default)
From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com
Ahaha I don't even blink at brothercest now - OH KRIPKE. I mean, with the Bordens, it's almost like jacking off right. Right? *g*

Oh, GOD. You're writing that, yes? KRIPKE, INDEED.

Yeah... I think watching it the second time, knowing for certain what's going on, it will be even easier to see all the clues.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
Umm, this is terrible! I have this inversion of the wife's "today/not today" angst in mind, except with Angier and the dirty alley sex. He assumes it's one Borden the whole time, but begins to suspect there's something else with every meeting. And this would be completely AU (and also ruin the climax of the movie oops), but at some point, Angier seeing the two of them together.

Or just claustrophobic Victorian incest and decay - living the same life, sharing the same bed, the same woman, the same child. What's a little pleasure between brothers?

Date: 2006-10-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Umm, this is terrible! I have this inversion of the wife's "today/not today" angst in mind, except with Angier and the dirty alley sex. He assumes it's one Borden the whole time, but begins to suspect there's something else with every meeting. And this would be completely AU (and also ruin the climax of the movie oops), but at some point, Angier seeing the two of them together.

Oh good, if you write it then I don't have to.

Date: 2006-10-23 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
Always room for more! Considering the nature of the source material, it might be appropriate. *g*

Date: 2006-10-23 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I didn't really catch on, but in retrospect, I loved the little foreshadowing with the Chinese guy and the fishbowl. Very clever.

Okay, 'splain to me, because I'm obviously missing this bit. Oh, about living what you're doing? Ah yes. Oh, wait, Freddy and Alfred. Perhaps Fredrick and Alfred, since they will obviously need names.

Not that I'm writing Prestige or anything. I have Entourage/SGA to write, I cannot be dallying in alleys with twin!Bales and Hugh Jackman.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
living what you're doing?

Yup exactly. Was the name of the other brother never revealed? I'm flaking out and forgetting.

Write it! writeit Twins! Bales! Jackman!

Date: 2006-10-23 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Yup exactly. Was the name of the other brother never revealed? I'm flaking out and forgetting.

Yup, never given. Except that Olivia called him Freddy and Sarah was all 'Freddy?!'

Date: 2006-10-23 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kismeteve.livejournal.com
Helen Mirren is my hero.

I think I'm going to have to see The Prestige again. Maybe it was the fact that I was sitting in the third row and was sitting at a weird angle, but I feel like I kept missing things. I think I got it (and '...the fuck?' Did they really just pull that off?' is right), but I think a second viewing will clarify things, especially the whole Tesla thing.

Whoa run-on sentence.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, the angle I suspect is everything. Even towards the end I knew that I would have to see it again, because while I saw it coming the minute I saw the hats and the cats I just -- it was an excellent turn. So Chris Nolan. Yay, Chris! Yay, David Bowie!

Date: 2006-10-23 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
I tend to be gullible/flaky and never see these things coming, so The Prestige pretty much blew me away. I've always been a Christian Bale fan, but he was particularly effective here. Cheekbones you could slice yourself on and a weird ear for accents. I swear he's used a different one in every role I've seen him in. It's so hard to pull off Cockney, but he rocks it.

And gahh his wife. You don't mean it today - that makes the days you do mean it better.

Also that shot of the hats with the cats scurrying through them was the perfect angle of subtle creepiness. In more scattered reactioning, David Bowie! I didn't see that casting coming.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Dude, the bit with the wives and the twins was great. I really applauded that bit; Chris Nolan is the man like that, and David Bowie made me SO happy. I went in completely spoiler free so when he showed up with Andy Sirkis I was all GEEK!MOMENT!

Date: 2006-10-23 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosekay.livejournal.com
Ahaha it was like pop culture shock!moment. So guys, the movie is about Gollum helping Ziggy Stardust to build some freaky machine so Wolverine can upstage Batman.

The technical stuff makes me shiver - the bird in the cage? And the look on Borden's face right before Angier fires the gun during his trick. And I totally bought the emotional pay off with the daughter at the end, the moment when Cutter says, You have to bring it back and Borden reappears - I mean, set up to be so cheesy, but it just worked for me. I might be sitting on my fingers squealing for Yuletide at this point.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Ahaha it was like pop culture shock!moment. So guys, the movie is about Gollum helping Ziggy Stardust to build some freaky machine so Wolverine can upstage Batman.

*pauses*

You win.

Date: 2006-10-23 05:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-10-23 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlitpines.livejournal.com
So guys, the movie is about Gollum helping Ziggy Stardust to build some freaky machine so Wolverine can upstage Batman.

I am in love with this sentence.

Bwahahahaha! Fantastic!

Date: 2006-10-23 06:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-10-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evalinece.livejournal.com
I read the book before seeing it, and while I still loved the movie, the book is just so much better. They changed so much, and it was probably necessary to make it into a successfull movie, but a lot of the magic went out of it. And in the book you actually *like* the characters, instead of just understanding why they did what they did. They're more human and interesting. So definitely read the book :)

Date: 2006-10-23 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Hmmm. *adds book To Read list*

Date: 2006-10-23 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyra-sena.livejournal.com
bypassing all the comments to say I can't wait to see The Prestige; what I find amusing is that I was all "Hugh Jackman! Must go see" and yet everyone else seems to be fixated on Bale...

Date: 2006-10-23 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
So I was prolly the only person on earth who was all, 'Michael Caine and Chris Nolan!! Ieally want to see!! but everybody else, yurgh!'

comment jumps.

Date: 2006-10-23 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torchthisnow.livejournal.com
Michael Caine is my old British boyfriend and I will FIGHT YOU for him.

Re: comment jumps.

Date: 2006-10-23 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Don't make me cut you. Three words: The Italian Job. The real one, not that faffy remade bullshit, even if it does have Mos Def.

Date: 2006-10-23 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torchthisnow.livejournal.com
Damnit, I knew I should have gone to see The Prestige instead of stupid ass Marie Antoinette this weekend.

Date: 2006-10-23 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Sofia Coppola's pretentious hipster bullshit makes me gag.

Date: 2006-10-23 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] screaming-mimie.livejournal.com
Agree completely, saw the twist coming, but didn't ruin the movie at all.

Date: 2006-10-23 08:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-10-23 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ignited.livejournal.com
I ended up being spoiled for parts of it, but I didn't mind -- took a while to find out the twist and I left the theater feeling electric. It's just... Wow. Excellent. I definitely need to see it again.

Plus, Bowie. Bowie was awesome. Bales and Jackman, that was nifty, but Ziggy AND Gollum make me a happy camper. Also, leaving the theater putting on Bowie's songs immediately on the ol' CD player. Maaagic.

Date: 2006-10-23 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Bales and Jackman, that was nifty, but Ziggy AND Gollum make me a happy camper.

I really do think [livejournal.com profile] sanyin said it best (http://hackthis.livejournal.com/405824.html?thread=9901888#t9901888).

Date: 2006-10-23 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issaro.livejournal.com
okay, hon, wtf was that? Really? W. T. F. Not that it wasn't good. It was awesome but am I supposed to be liking one of the boys? Because really? I didn't *like* either of them. I did squee like a crazy fan girl to see the Bowie though. Bowie!!! Although was it just me, or was the Bowie like some weird ass mesh of Tom Skerritt (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000643/) and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005484/>Alan Thicke</a>? Whatever, trevor. It was Bowie and he rocked and that is all.

Date: 2006-10-23 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issaro.livejournal.com
hmmm... where did the rest of my sentence go?

Tom Skerritt and Alan Thicke, is what I meant to say. Odd. Now LJ comments is getting all into the transported man.

Date: 2006-10-23 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Seriously, I totally thought of Tom Skeritt, too! And I hope you weren't supposed to be sympathetic to either one of them, because you know, uh, yeah, NO. I just really enjoyed the story, because you know it was kind of clever and very fanboyish. Plus, Michael Caine. Even though he wasn't answering to the name of Alfred.

I knew you'd squee at the Bowie.

Date: 2006-10-23 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] issaro.livejournal.com
Well, then, good. Glad it's not just me who was channeling 'Viper' there. And really M. Caine and D. Bowie had the best parts in the whole thing. The men of great wisdom that no one listens to. I totally understood what the price of Tesla's machine was from the beginning but the Bolden twist? I must admit that was news to me. I'll blame it on my early start to the day. That and the inappropriate snickering at the whole 'Go to him, you deserve each other' line. I couldn't help my fangirl self.

Date: 2006-10-23 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I think this all stems from some sordid sex thing between Borden and Algiers in some alley, or the wife caught the two brothers doing something dirtywrongbad together, because go to him could really go either way.

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