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I don’t put personal things here. I don’t generally get involved with meta discussions either, but you know, every now and then something pops up and I just have to get up and say ‘um, what?’



There appears to be some debate as to the “blackness” of Pete Ross, and for the life of me I don’t know why. Maybe it’s just me, but considering that Pete, by deign of the person who portrays him on television, is black, I find it a bit hard to understand the exact problem.

Now I understand that we haven’t seen Pete’s family yet, so for all we know his dad could be Filipino and his mom Nigerian or Cuban, but I mean come on. So we don’t have definitive proof that he’s black black, but because a) most black people are already mixed up after about four hundred years here and b) his skin has more melanin than say Chloe, we’re just going to go ahead and infer that he’s black – but remember he could be Cuban... or mixed, or who the fuck knows. Hell, maybe he’s got a pod hiding under his bed too! Shit, maybe I’m the only one who missed it and they painted him blue when I wasn’t looking. Hey, it could’ve happened, wouldn’t really surprise me.

Come to think of it, none of this really should, surprise me I mean. Just because we’re in 2002 doesn’t mean the stereotypes have gone away. I mean Chloe’s blonde so really she should be as dumb as dirt, and because Clark is an alien he's really a green little man in an insulation suit, and since he's hick he obviously could never fathom that Lex might be hitting on him, and since Pete is black he should either a) be cutting class to play ball on scruffy-ass courts without nets that are so prevalent or b) spending all his time in the Principal’s Office. Right?

Right?

You know what? I don’t think so. Maybe you do, that’s your prerogative. Doesn’t mean I have to agree, doesn’t mean I have to like it and can’t take offense at your pigheadedness, because you know what? I do. I take offense at stupidity and ignorance and pigeon-holing and the idea that because Pete is black he can only act one way – like the thugged-out, Fubu-wearing, gold tooth sporting, homie out on the corner who smokes his blunts and rolls craps in the alley.

I guess Pete’s got a lot of work to do – you know, to be real, because that’s obviously the real Pete Ross and obviously you (generic) know better than anybody else. I'll be damned but I think the writers on the show must have missed that. Silly them. You know because Pete’s mom really isn’t a judge and his family didn’t really have a creamed corn factory that they OWNED. My bad, I guess they must’ve just run it on layaway. And since that's the reality, versus whatever we've been told, I'm just waiting for the episode where Pete and his dad go bust a cap in Lionel’s ass, cos that’s really how black people deal with their problems. Yeah. Uh huh.

Did I also mention that apparently the only music that Gangsta!Pete will ever listen to is Jay-Z and Scarface and Wu-Tang, because you know the brothers on the corner don’t listen to Remy Zero.

Silly me. How non-black, can one black person be? I guess I must have missed this memo.

It may have escaped some people’s notice, but Pete lives in Kansas, not in the Brooklyn projects, not in North Philly or Long Beach. Now generally, people are first and foremost a product of the environment that they grow up in, so he may be able to buy some gold teeth on line or get some Nas records at the Wiz, but you know, otherwise, I’m not sure how exactly Pete is expected to learn how to ‘be black.’ Maybe we should talk to the Hooked on Phonics people? I mean one person can only watch so much BET between school and bed... and you know since Pete is black and he obviously can’t wear GAP or A&F or what the fuck ever, I’m wondering who’s going to pay for him to take those special trips to the Bronx to pick up his Triple 5 Soul gear so he can really ‘be black.’

I mean isn't that what he needs to really 'be black?' Isn't that what being black is all about? Obviously it has everything to do with what you wear, how you sound, and exclusivly listening to Public Enemy, Mos Def and Louis Farrakahn, reading the Autobiography of Malcom X and Marcus Garvey and keeping like with like. Obviously black people don't listen to country (India.Arie), play rock (Lenny Kravitz), write intelligent books (Zadie Smith, Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison) or know how to play polo (unless it has to do with Ralph Lauren).

My bad... but you know I take offense at the idea that because Pete is black he obvious could never have gone to a boarding school or will never go to an Ivy League on his own merits – you know, since Affirmative Action is over and all that. I take offense to the idea that because Pete has interest in Chloe he’s obviously not being black enough. God, is that what people said about me and my exes as well? Oh, well, fuck them, cos you know if Pete’s not really black, and neither am I and neither are a lot of black people that don’t fit the stereotype then obviously we just don’t exist at all – I mean except as preppy could-be-but-not-quite white people. I can’t wait to tell my parents this.

Silly us.

Date: 2002-10-10 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingridmatthews.livejournal.com
Okay, I need a link or a title or something. Because I *swear* I haven't seen this stereotype in any of the fics I've recently read. I don't read Chlex, is it in those? Does he talk *real* home or just with the occassional "Yo" or "man" or teenage stuff? How bad is it? I really need to see this now.

Date: 2002-10-10 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barely-bean.livejournal.com
I don't remember the name but I saw one fic that was notoriously bad with the Stereotype Pete. I think though Zahra's referring to a certain thread over at ClarkLex. I agree completely with her on the stupidity of the remarks. There's nothing that pisses me off more than close-minded remarks like that. Grrr.

Date: 2002-10-10 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ingridmatthews.livejournal.com
Ahhhh, okay I see now. What confused me was another post in Te's journal the other day where she talked about Pete talking in "jive" in fics, and I couldn't for the life of me find any fic like that anywhere.

But I see what this is about. Right.

Date: 2002-10-10 12:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spasticat.livejournal.com
This was the story that...that...argh! Pete was soooo abused in this:

http://www.smallvillefanfic.com/archive/3/thedragon.html

Date: 2002-10-10 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexcorp-hope.livejournal.com
Read the Duplicity threads on ClarkLex- this is an actual conversation, not a story.

Date: 2002-10-10 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
the real laugh here (depending on your sense of humor) is that i'm not even on ClarkLex anymore - although I heard there are corn discussions happening - I'm just going based on what I'm hearing second hand.

Date: 2002-10-10 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
I've read the fics. I've deleted the fics. Ah, the power of the delete button. It should always be employed.

boy, u know it's tru. ooh, oo, u- hayluvff whew-

Date: 2002-10-10 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com
I think this is why Regina disabled the anon comments on her journal.

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