*sigh*

May. 24th, 2002 02:01 pm
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do you remember what it was like when you believed in something? anything at all?

was it when you were five? or maybe fifteen. was it a sports team or a movie star? did you believe in fairy tales and unicorns, or did you believe in the monsters under your bed and the boogeyman in the closet?

have you always believed in good? have you always believed that there was something better out there? did you pray for someone to come and save your from yourself?

i used to believe. i know i did. i must've believed in me somewhere along the way, but i swear i used to believe in other people too. maybe i believed too much.

i keep cataloging my mind, my brain, trying to rack it and remember what it was like when i was younger and less cynical. less pessimistic. i keep trying to find a time when i wasn't jaded. but the sad thing is that even when i find a time when i wasn't cynical about certain things, it was overshadowed by a million other things.

i've never been an optimist. never been an idealist.

i wonder what it's like.

Date: 2002-05-24 02:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spasticat.livejournal.com
I have bouts of idealism. I think you know that. It gets me in trouble. It breaks my heart. But if you'd like to borrow a cup or two please feel free.

In the long run I'm finding it's better to be a cynical optimist. Trust me...it is possible. For example...I believe that my cats love and adore me. But I know that at least once a week their little brains contemplate things like "I wonder how she'd taste on Melba toast." or "She's been so poor lately, let's screw up our gastrointestinal systems and force her to take us to the vet thereby resulting in her shelling out hundreds of dollars."

I don't think I can change your mind and make you an overnight believer or an optimist because...damn...that road leads to disappointment and disenchantment. Just believe in the bits and pieces of a person, place, idea, whatever. Who cares if some parts are shit...there's something there that you connect with, believe in. Not sure if this is going to make sense but I love Borders (sorry, corporate-ho here) but I avoid the gardening and religion section like they contain the plague. Some of my friends I treat the same way.

bla bla bla...I go on too much

confucius-ali say...

Date: 2002-05-28 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Just believe in the bits and pieces of a person, place, idea, whatever. Who cares if some parts are shit...there's something there that you connect with, believe in. Not sure if this is going to make sense but I love Borders (sorry, corporate-ho here) but I avoid the gardening and religion section like they contain the plague. Some of my friends I treat the same way.

sometimes it freaks me out how smart you guys are. i was *at* borders the other day too, no, that was barnes and noble - it was good. i went to the philosophy section. i NEVER go to the philosophy section. i think this is an analogy for something. also, i got your voicemail. i was going to call but that seemed like a lot of hand eye coordination that i didn't have (i used it all up when my mum rang *snerk*)

Re: confucius-ali say...

Date: 2002-05-28 10:16 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spasticat.livejournal.com
Egads! And you were able to be coherent to her? If it were me the phone convo woulda gone like this:

*ring*

*stoned ali lifts sofa cushions then looks at cats*

*ring*

*two brain-cells make a connection, ali lifts receiver and then marvels at beautiful design of phone*

*long pause*

Mom: Hello? Anybody there?

Me: Fuck! Is this god?

Mom: ?

*hands phone to cat*

Gizmo: ?

Re: confucius-ali say...

Date: 2002-05-28 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
i was coherant that much is clear. not much is clear about this weekend but that i didn't mess that up is good.

Re: confucius-ali say...

Date: 2002-05-28 10:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spasticat.livejournal.com
Hm...I wonder if you're like me...where the sober state is too close to the fucked-up state and thus both are interchangeable.

Re: confucius-ali say...

Date: 2002-05-28 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
well the whole point i was desperate for the fucked-up state was b/c i didn't want the hangover. oh my.

Date: 2002-05-24 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minitrog.livejournal.com
Yes, I do remember... and I still do believe.

But first --- I've never believed in any of that stuff you mention above, not sports or stars, or fairy tales, or 'good', or gods.

Not me particularly either.

But what I do believe in is people. Humanity and human potential. There is vast posiblility in the variety. People can be deeply creative, compassionate, inventive and exciting. They can make joy and make love, and stories, which are really an expression of hope and goodwill, or of understanding.

Most things do suck mightily, and I am also a realist. Jaded and cynical are my overcoat and hat.

But although I have never been an idealist, I would say that I am an optimist. It's not that it ain't bad out there, it's that I *know* it can be better.

Fuck it babes, there is still you, me, our pals, their pals, and all the folk who ever wrote a pwp... not so bad after all!

so true

Date: 2002-05-28 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Fuck it babes, there is still you, me, our pals, their pals, and all the folk who ever wrote a pwp... not so bad after all!

you're right, baby, there is us and if we don't end the world then nothing will. *g*

Date: 2002-05-24 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessedmuch.livejournal.com
How bad can it -- and you -- be when you have people who give a damn about you? I mean, yes, besides me, the one who tends to gush and slobber about you. Obviously some of us believe in you.

God someone smack me, I sound like Glinda.

I loves you, z

Date: 2002-05-28 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
i loves you too porgy. *g*

ah. amazing how the other end of the weekend can make things look, innit?

Re:

Date: 2002-05-28 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessedmuch.livejournal.com
heee! Hurray to weekends that put my girl back on her game. Must read journal soon to find out if she remembers any of it... ;)

Re:

Date: 2002-05-28 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
i'm working on trying to type it up, but um. lar - i met two guys with a foot fetish, i completely left this planet mentally, and we drank stupendously. it was good. i don't remember much, but i posted your magazine!

Re:

Date: 2002-05-28 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessedmuch.livejournal.com
All good and shiny things. (SQUEE! MAGAZINE! SQUEE! THANK YOU!)

Note to self: train liver ahead of time for visiting with z...

*mwah*

Girl

Date: 2002-05-27 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethros.livejournal.com
You really are a sad sack, aren't you?
First off, you are talented, beautiful, and *I* adore you.
Secondly, you have a job now, doesn't that count for something? Remember when you used to be depressed because you are unemployed? Now it's just the human condition getting you down. Join the club. You know what freedom is? Just tossing it all in and realizing NOTHING will ever make you happy. NOTHING. That means that you can stop thinking that the *next* thing will make it better, the what-ifs and if-Is. Just forget that shit.

Being an idealist and believing really make your life harder than easier. You always end up waking up and seeing that you were wrong, or the person you believed in was only human, or that people will always be starving. Do what you can, it doesn't have to bring world peace.

Am I bitter and cynical? HELL yes. I still do what I can for the my causes, even if I know it's doomed. I still love people and try to show it. You can be jaded and still eek out happiness.

my hetero-life mate is right...

Date: 2002-05-28 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hackthis.livejournal.com
Secondly, you have a job now, doesn't that count for something? Remember when you used to be depressed because you are unemployed?

some really smart person once stated that 'people would be a lot happier if once they got what what they wanted, they could remember how much they wanted it in the first place.' i think it's a part of the human condition to want more than you have, to be always unsatisfied. or if not the human condition, then maybe it was the way i was raised, who the fuck knows. i know that the sentiment though is true, that the happiest i ever was was when i was happy with what i had, when i didn't want anything else. but now. wanting more is a recipe for disaster. ooooh, does that sound like drabble to anybody else?


Now it's just the human condition getting you down. Join the club. You know what freedom is? Just tossing it all in and realizing NOTHING will ever make you happy. NOTHING. That means that you can stop thinking that the *next* thing will make it better, the what-ifs and if-Is. Just forget that shit.

christ, kass. you really are in danger of me trying to clone you and make you a man. you know this right?


Being an idealist and believing really make your life harder than easier. You always end up waking up and seeing that you were wrong, or the person you believed in was only human, or that people will always be starving. Do what you can, it doesn't have to bring world peace.

if i had known 30 seconds of self-flagellation was all it took to get some self-serving love i'd've done it fucking years ago. *g* seriously though, i know what you're saying is true because those are my thoughts when i wake up 99.1% of the time. it's that other 0.9% that does my head in. those time when i wake up and hope for better and want more and wish the world was better and that disappointment was just a word. i get over it rather quickly.

Oh and

Date: 2002-05-27 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethros.livejournal.com
To maybe cheer you up instead of making you jump in front of traffic, I started my Chloe futurefic.

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